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Title: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 13, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
This build actually started in 1993. I cut this osage log and several others that year.This is the last of them. Its just been waiting patiently for me to decide to use it.
     (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/osagelog.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/osagelog.jpg.html)
Earlier this year Feb. or March. I can't remember which       :rolleyes:     The PBS had their biannual banquet in Cincinnati.  Tracy and I donated a bow to be auctioned off at the banquet. Some of you may remember seeing that bow.Here is the PBS donated bow.    (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/finishedpbsbow2.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/finishedpbsbow2.jpg.html)
Long story short Bill Kissner was the winning bidder.
I first met Bill and his wife Jeanie on one of the pig gigs from some years back. Tracy and I hit it off with them instantly. Its easy to get along with good folks and Bill and Jeanie are some of the best. We kept in touch and when the PBS banquet came up Bill and Jeanie parked their camper at our place. We are only about 45 minutes from where the banquet took place so it worked out well.
I knew Bill had been thinking of buying a Zipper in the near future. We had talked about options a few times.Knowing that it was not a big surprise when Bill bid on the donated bow. Well....He ended up winning the bow. I knew it was not exactly what he wanted so I offered to trade him the banquet bow for the model and wood combinations he wanted. I knew it would not be easy to convince him. Bill is VERY generous and it was hard to convince him that the woods he wanted were actually less money than the donated bow. He was very worried that I would get shorted in the deal. Finally after a few minutes of discussing it he relented.
That brings us to this week when I started on his bow. You see we are going out to hunt elk with him at the end of this month so I figured if I wanted to know where his secret spots are I had better bring his bow.       :D
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: soy on August 13, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
you have my attention   :archer:
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 13, 2014, 07:44:00 PM
Here is what was on the inside of that log.
  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/splitlog.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/splitlog.jpg.html)

Bill likes the ZSR riser. He ordered an all Osage riser with 2 curved black phenolic strips.  For the limbs he went with carbon and foam. They are to be 58"57#@28". For the belly veneer Bill chose to stick with the Osage. Once it came time to actually get the limb layed up I could not do it. There was a stack of Olive Ash veneers that just kept taunting me. I called Bill and asked if I could use the Olive Ash and stain it to look like Osage instead of using the Osage I had for veneers. Bill agreed to let me change his order.

Here is how the belly of the limbs turned out along with the riser wood all cut to size.
  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/riserblockandlimbbelly.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/riserblockandlimbbelly.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 13, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
It gets better!The inside of the riser piece has some interesting grain going on along with some small knots. It should make for a very unique riser.

The carbon on the limbs will get dressed up with a very rare albino diamond back rattle snake skin.Its going to look great with this wood combo.!

Bill is also getting one of our matching Woodie quivers.

That's all I have for now. I'll share some more pictures as they come.

I sure hope you like it Bill!!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Rob W. on August 13, 2014, 07:51:00 PM
Very nice! I can't wait too see this unfold.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Bill Kissner on August 13, 2014, 08:00:00 PM
IMO Bill builds one heck of a bow and I can't wait 'till he and Tracy arrive here in Colorado with it. The riser and limbs are going to be just beautiful and the albino skin is going to be the icing on the cake!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Big Ed on August 13, 2014, 08:00:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Matty on August 13, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
Bill this build started in 1993! What were you 21 at the time!?
Haha. Oh wait that's me.    :jumper:  
Bow build for Bill
I'm all over watching this. Great great people!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: ron w on August 13, 2014, 08:20:00 PM
Cool......I love Osage.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 13, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Matty:
Bill this build started in 1993! What were you 21 at the time!?
Haha. Oh wait that's me.     :jumper:    
Bow build for Bill
I'm all over watching this. Great great people!
No, not 21. I was 17 in 1993   :D
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Jayrod on August 13, 2014, 08:39:00 PM
I am tuned in!!
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on August 13, 2014, 08:46:00 PM
:campfire:     :coffee:
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: tippit on August 13, 2014, 09:11:00 PM
Don't get much better than those two Bills  :)
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Steve O on August 13, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
So,   so, COOL!.  That bow will have the best mojo.

More please...
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Sockrsblur on August 13, 2014, 10:13:00 PM
Beautiful wood Bill! Thanks for taking the time to share this...
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: meathead on August 13, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
Bill that will be very nice.  The widow will be hung up and never touched again.  Can't wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: brianbfree on August 13, 2014, 11:05:00 PM
Bill is a lucky man!
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Post by: jonsimoneau on August 13, 2014, 11:12:00 PM
Awesome.  Good stuff Bill....and Bill.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Whip on August 13, 2014, 11:27:00 PM
What a beauty that is going to be! Osage is one of my all time favorite bow woods. Understated elegance, classy, and just keeps getting better with age.
Bill, enjoy your bow, and Bill and Tracy, enjoy your trip!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Jwilliam on August 14, 2014, 12:41:00 AM
Man this sure is coming along nicely !!! Love the looks of the stained Olive Ash.   :thumbsup:    Great work as usual Bill !!!   :notworthy:  


Bill
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Hawkeye on August 14, 2014, 01:23:00 AM
Well, Bill, get ready for a wonderful time hunting in and around Lost Canyon!  Bill and Jeanne are the most generous and gracious couple I've met in my lifetime, and Bill has decades of hard-earned knowledge about his neck of the woods that he shares fully... perhaps more fully than he really should!  You and Tracy are going to have a great experience, on SO many levels.  

The other thing about Mr. Kissner is how he will certify that beautiful new bow's worth as a hunting tool.  The man is a KILLIN' MACHINE, and has taken more elk with a bow than I have whitetails!  As a bowyer, I'd have to think it is gratifying to put one of your creations in the hands of someone who has shown he can do so much with it, and use it so well.  It couldn't be going to a better home.

Enjoy the fellowship, food, scenery, food, hunting, food, accommodations... well, you get the idea!  And don't forget to take note of the starry display at night.  It is gorgeous.

They are out there waiting for you and Tracy.  I hope you get the chance at a close encounter- or maybe even a shot!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: DaveT1963 on August 14, 2014, 07:56:00 AM
Looking forward to watching this one
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 14, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
I did not get much bow work done today. I had a big broadhead order to fill and that kept me away from the bows for about half the day. Here is the riser blank all glued up.
    (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/Billsriserblank.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/Billsriserblank.jpg.html)

The rouged out riser and I mean ROUGH.The shelf is not even cut in yet.
    (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/Billsroughriser.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/Billsroughriser.jpg.html)
You can just begin to see some of the character in this piece of Osage. If you look down where the bottom limb attaches you can see some of the grain.The rest of the character in the riser will show up once its all sanded. Then when the finish hits it the grain and pen knots will really pop!

No updates tomorrow or sat. I have to go out of town for a funeral.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: John Krause on August 14, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
Hey Bill,

Sounds great!  Hope it comes out perfect for you.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Jwilliam on August 14, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
Looking good my friend !!!    :thumbsup:    


Bill
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Tim Nuss on August 14, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
Hi Bill,
 Good luck with your new bow. It is sure coming along great.
 Please give all of our best to your lovely wife, from Karen and I.

Tim
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Duckbutt on August 15, 2014, 08:07:00 AM
I think Bill had to trade the other one in because I drooled all over it at the dinner table at the banquet.      :D  

That the wait on a Zipper is now up to 20 plus years has me a little worried though.

Y'all have a jam up time in CO!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: BrownA5 on August 15, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
Great looking bow.  I will certainly be following this build along.  Thanks Bill(s) for sharing it!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: cacciatore on August 15, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
Bill K,you'll never appreciate that bow since you shoot it.
Bill D's bows are so quiet,fast and smooth that make them just perfect. The weight its self makes them a joy to carry all they long in the mountains. So its beauty is just a part of the equation. Congrats to both Bills.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on August 15, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Looks like a Bee now.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Bill Kissner on August 15, 2014, 09:31:00 PM
Daryl my friend, you embarrass me with such accolades!   :o   I wish I deserved half of them. By the way, your check is in the mail!   :jumper:
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 17, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Here is the skin that will be applied over the carbon tomorrow.
  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/albinoskin.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/albinoskin.jpg.html)
It will look much better on the limbs.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: far rider on August 17, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
This is great. Really like watching this come together.
Tim
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Tater on August 17, 2014, 08:16:00 PM
This is for sure going to be one extraordinary bow! Can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Jwilliam on August 18, 2014, 01:19:00 AM
Looking forward to seeing how these skins look.


Bill
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: legends1 on August 18, 2014, 01:31:00 AM
What a great story Bill and this bow is turning out great so far. Cant wait to see the finish.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: beaunaro on August 18, 2014, 11:39:00 PM
I'm glad to see Kissner is getting such a nice bow.

Dunn has me on his build list again too, this time it's a new SXT for Lynne.

I'll be Elk hunting close to the Kissners and will be stopping in to say Hello.

Maybe we will all run into each other out there.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 19, 2014, 10:28:00 AM
It still needs some more sanding and finish sprayed but I am making progress.

  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/zsr.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/zsr.jpg.html)

  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/zsr2.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/zsr2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 19, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
The skins are on the limbs but they will need to dry for a couple of more days before I can do anything more with them. The pattern on the skin shows up much better now.

I hope to see you there, Irv!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Jwilliam on August 19, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
Great looking riser !!! Looking forward to seeing the finished limbs.


Bill
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Gen273 on August 19, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
Wow, Bill, thanks for allowing us to see a master at work!

I love Zipper Bows!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: vintage archer on August 19, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
BILL DUNN

Beautiful riser ...The osage has great color. Bill Kissner is going to love the bow. I know he cherishes your friendship so that will make it extra special.

You and Tracey will have a ball at Bill and Jeanie’s it is one of my favorite hunting destinations. Lost of fun and good hunting.

Good hunting and a safe trip   ;)
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Mike Vines on August 19, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
Beautiful bow coming together, and I/we are looking forward to the completed bow pictures.

The bow at the PBS banquet was gorgeous,  Hard to believe you are topping that.

Good luck and have fun in CO.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: cacciatore on August 23, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
Bill,did you already make any pics of those skinned limbs?
When do you plan to be in Denver area?
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Steve O on August 23, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
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Originally posted by zipper bowss:
It still needs some more sanding and finish sprayed but I am making progress.

   (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/zsr.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/zsr.jpg.html)

   (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/zsr2.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/zsr2.jpg.html)  
Classy...and the best thing about it is it will end up being the perfect color match to elk antler.  That one will be neat to watch age.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 26, 2014, 02:54:00 PM
Skins are on along with lots of heavy coats of finish. The finish should be dry enough tomorrow for me to sand the whole bow. It will then get sprayed a few more times with the shiny finish then she will be ready for the flat and texture.

  (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/zipperbows/billriserandskinnlimbbellyandback.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/zipperbows/media/billriserandskinnlimbbellyandback.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: 4dogs on August 26, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
Very Nice!
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Post by: ron w on August 26, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
Wow.....the skins look better than I thought they would.......really neat combo. I just love Osage. I hope you have a ball with this bow Bill!!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Jwilliam on August 26, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
Talk about SWEET !!! Impressive work Bill  :notworthy:    :notworthy:


Bill
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: JEFF B on August 26, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
WOW!!! that is awesome Bill and i love osage as well you da man   :shaka:
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Post by: Stump73 on August 26, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
Wow man thats a work of art!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Sockrsblur on August 26, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
Beautiful bow Bill... it came together very nice!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Big Ed on August 26, 2014, 04:51:00 PM
Very nice!!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Bill Kissner on August 26, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Dang Bill, I can't wait until you get here to try it out! The albino skins really mates up well with the osage. Gonna be a beautiful now!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Gary Greene on August 27, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
I like it, it will age like fine wine.   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Gen273 on August 27, 2014, 11:09:00 AM
WOW, What a looker! I am not normally a snake skin guy, but I really like the look of that albino skin on the Osage.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: TRAP on August 28, 2014, 03:35:00 AM
Just imagine what that bow will look like in 5-6 years.  It's beautiful now but when that osage mellows over time it's going to be even more amazing.

True Art!!!!!!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Pheonixarcher on August 28, 2014, 04:57:00 AM
THAT is one gorgeous bow!!! Put me down for the next set of albinos and Osage!
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: zipper bowss on August 28, 2014, 07:54:00 AM
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Originally posted by Pheonixarcher:
THAT is one gorgeous bow!!! Put me down for the next set of albinos and Osage!
This is the only albino diamond back I have ever seen.

Bill, your bow should get its final coats of finish today.    :jumper:
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Bill Kissner on August 28, 2014, 01:26:00 PM
Thanks Bill. Won't be long before you are headed out here! Weather has been a little chilly but supposed to warm up a little next week. Was 37 degrees this morn.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: ron w on September 02, 2014, 05:24:00 PM
Can't wait to hear how it shoots......   :campfire:    :coffee:
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Bill Kissner on September 03, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Bill and Tracy arrived Labor Day afternoon. The bow is beautiful and I just this evening really got it and some Carbon Express Heritage 250's matched up. The bow is a hard shooter and is very quiet. Tomorrow morning will be its initial hunt. Would really like to christen it with an elk. It has warmed up a little and the elk are laying low for now but things will pick up.
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Jwilliam on September 04, 2014, 01:31:00 AM
Congrats on your new bow Bill. She will look even better with a little bit of blood on her.     :D    


Bill
Title: Re: Zipper build along for Bill Kissner
Post by: Benjy on September 04, 2014, 11:16:00 PM
Beautiful bow!