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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Gooserbat on September 15, 2014, 12:27:00 PM
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I'm ordering some new heads in the next day or two. I'm needing something 125 or so and a two blade glue on. I'll e honest I've shot stingers for years and love them but my new arrow recipe needs more weight than I can get out of them. I've had a lot of problem with Zwickeys as to getting them really sharp, I've used Stos and they are better, any other suggestions and I don't want to spend a weeks wages on 12 broadheads.
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Rib-Teks sharpen about as easy as they come. Metal is a smidge softer than an Zwickey and I have no problem making them razor sharp. Cheap heads too.
What weight are you looking for? I might have a few I could send you if the weight is right.
Doug Key
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I think if you are having trouble with Zwickey double bevel 2-blades, you are using too much pressure, or are not raising a burr after filing through the soft braze to the middle steel. They are not hard and really do sharpen pretty easily.
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Single bevel Grizzly's are the easiest ones I've ever tried to sharpen. That is using a KME.
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Most any of today's heads, Zwickey, Ace, Magnus, STOS, etc, will sharpen easily once the initial blade angle is set. After that it is just learning a correct technique. A straight or slightly convex edge is probably the easiest to sharpen. STOS comes with a very good initial grind, I just wish they were a little wider.
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Also keep in mind ease of sharpening and edge holding are mutually exclusive. Personally I like broadheads that are a harder to sharpen and just require periodic honing after being shot. I generally won't use a broadhead with a hardness less than 54 c.
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Get some zwickey's or tuskers..(inexpensive & good quality)
Buy an accu-sharp.
Go hunting!
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I just sharpened my wife's arrows with Zwickey broadheads. I used a file, then a jewel stick and stropped them with an old belt and they are all shaving sharp. If you are having trouble getting Zwickeys sharp, the problem is not the broadhead.
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3 blades are my preference partly because they are very simple to maintain. Just touched up 6 of them in less than 10 minutes.
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It has more to do with sharpening skill. If you are skilled you can get them sharp with a bastard file. If you are a bit sharpening challenged...get a sharpening tool like the KME broadhead sharpener. Sharpening tools let the rest of us get great results.
That being said, I found Ace broadheads to be very easy. They come with a nice bur that requires little work to get hunting sharp. Most heads are this easy. Simmons can be harder because of their concave cutting edge. Old Grizzlies can be hard if you need to grind the initial 25 degree bevel. New Grizzlies are easy.
just my two cents
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Ace and Magnus are very easy to sharpen. Zwickeys seem to have a little harder metal and the grind is coarser . Check the "how to" section here or 3 Rivers and find the videos on sharpening broadheads with a file. Raise a burr, flip the burr, and use lighter pressure each time. Strop and/or burnish and they will cut hair with ease.
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Ace standard gets my vote for a two blade. And they are inexpensive and sturdy.
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Get a KME knife sharpener, then you can sharpen any broadhead. AND they make special jaws for broadheads too.
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I found that my new woodsmans were easy to sharpen. File jewel stick and leather strop .
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Ace
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Magnus, followed by Magnus, and then those Magnus heads, too. Using the All sharp tool, it's a snap to get them hair popping sharp.
I find the original Woodsman to be easy,too.
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i just re-sharpened my meatheads which is a new head to me and they were super easy and more sharp than new.
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Originally posted by KentuckyTJ:
Single bevel Grizzly's are the easiest ones I've ever tried to sharpen. That is using a KME.
Same here.
Bill
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STOS are easy to sharpen with a file and a crock stick.
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I am officially certified as being "sharpening challenged", if I can get those Ace Super Express broadheads shaving sharp, anybody can.
Trust me, I'm a turkey hunter too.
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Old Bear Razorheads are easy to sharpen and you have the option of using the bleeder for better blood trails . Lots of them for sale..
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If you can't keep the Z's sharp, either the bevel is off, or they might be dulled in a quiver, handling etc. To solve the bevel, try a wheel sharpener like a Rada. Soft touch, keeps a consistent bevel.
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I think I'll bite the bullet and get some Stos.
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What bigbadjon said. Quick to sharpen, quick to dull. And like Bill Carlsen, I prefer 3 blades partly because they sharpen easily for me. Then there's the big holes...
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Originally posted by KentuckyTJ:
Single bevel Grizzly's are the easiest ones I've ever tried to sharpen. That is using a KME.
I've got to agree. The angle that Bill has on these, makes them super easy..
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Any 3 blade. Bill
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Once I was taught how to properly sharpen heads, I found Magnus was the easiest followed by Zwickey and Snuffer. 10 mil file, stropping leather does a great job. For touch up in the field, hard to beat the Rada Wheel sharpener.
For those who are having difficulties, I highly recommend Ronnie's KME. From single bevel to double bevel the edge is scary sharp.
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Have to disagree with you, Zwickey's (& Magnus) are the EASIEST head to sharpen, in particular the Deltas because of their straight edge.
They usually come slightly concave, some more than others, and that is dependent upon where the grinder was in its wear or adjustment schedule during the sharpening process. I straighten the edge so it is perfectly straight or flat to a true surface.
Always use a NEW (or new-ish) Mill Bastard file, that makes a HUGE difference. Maintain the integrity of your files and always cycle through older ones; retain those for shovels and axes.
I C-clamp the file on my bench with it sticking out into my shop, suspended. I run the head on a shaft, the length of the file pushing from tip to toe, parallel to the edge, maintaining the angle with just my hand. This takes some practice & skill. As others say, raise that burr, then remove it! I also hone mine on wet/dry paper on a marble slab used for sharpening plane blades and a paper wheel w/rouge on my grinder.
My arms are bare of hair right now...it blows off with the touch of a blade!
Kris
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ACE
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Zwickey and Magnus are all I've used for 25 years so I don't really know too much about other heads. I get them very sharp with Tru-Angle files and a leather strop.
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How much weight do you need to add? One trick that works well is to take some bird shot out of a shotgun shell. Melt it down and drop it in the bottom of the ferrel. I do this all the time. You can add 20 grains or more this way. It works like a charm
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Vpa 3 blades are so easy even I can do it. File, jewel stick- sharp as sharp can be. Andy ivy has a good video showing how on youtube.
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I think the easiest for me so far is just about any two blade that's made from regular steel not stainless. I use a Magnus All-Sharp and a two sided leather strop with jewelers rouge of two different grits. A stainless head isn't much tougher though.
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