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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Nala on February 07, 2015, 10:41:00 PM
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Hey all,
Just curious as to what you all use for hunting hogs when you use lower weight bows.
I will be using a bow from 45 to 49 pounds and right now the heads I have are the old Bear Greenies, 3 blade Woodsman and some of the plain edge Stingers at 125 grains.
I want to minimize any possible mistakes as much as I can so I want to use the best broadhead for the job when the chance comes....
Thanks all.
Nalajr
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Grizzly 16 gr. would be my choice.
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Any of those would work well if sharp and poked in a good spot.
Hud. . 16 grain is just too light for my taste :laughing:
ChuckC
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Im using 250gr 2 blade vpa penetrator in a week and half. If I get one I'll let you know how it well it cuts through.
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What's your draw length and total arrow weight? How big is a typical hog where you hunt?
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Oh I forgot to say my draw is 24 7/8
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I shot this hog with a 45# Bear TD--arrow was a GT 3555 with a 2 blade Stos broadhead mounted on a 100 grain steel adapter. Total weight is around 525 grains. My draw length is 28". The arrow went through like a hot knife through butter and stuck in the ground on the off side. She went maybe 75 yards. The heads you mention will all do fine if put in the right spot. I have killed many hogs with several heads--this Stos really impressed me. First time shooting anything with it.
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This hog was a shielded boar with a shield about 1+ inch thick. He was taken with a 50# Treadway longbow--right through the shield with the same arrow as above but shooting a 2 blade Zwickey Delta head. Never gave the shield a thought--shot just as I would a sow. He went down in less than 50 yards. I would suggest a 2 blade head for your set up as maybe the best, but a buddy of mine shoots through hogs regularly with bows in the low 40# range at his 26" draw and uses big ol' Snuffers. Hogs can be tough but a good sharp head in the right spot is deadly--just be sure you really know where the right spot is.
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Thats awesome David!
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All will work fine if razor sharp. I did find that my two blade muzzy phantoms penetrated better then my three blade woodsman's though. But I can get my phantoms sharper than the woodman's due to the angle when sharpening so that might be the reason and not the design.
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You need a study 2-blade head that sharpens easy and holds an edge. Avoid any with weak blades that are prone to bending upon impact with something solid. Zwickey Eskimo is a good head. Lots of other good ones as well.
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I like the Stinger you have.I like the diamondtip that resists tip curl alot!The ones I have had have been razor sharp and shave hair out of the package.Its a reasonably thick blade.But they make thicker heads these days if you want something really tough.
Stingers get very good reviews from alot of guys who are members hear.They are very fairly priced.
I use the 2 blade 150s smooth edge.
A razor sharp head that does not bend or curl upon impact with bone and a head that is flying straight and true upon impact are keys to good penetration.Tuning the arrow for excellant flight is very important and you want a quick recovery from archers paradox with your arrow.For those close shots especially.You definatly dont want hits on animals where the arrow is fishtailing knock left or right.Or porposing nock high or low.That robs the arrow of its energy to penetrate tremendously.
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My cousin used to work at a sod farm and used to kill numerous pigs most days. To be honest, this was eradication not hunting. He will tell you they are not hard to kill, anything from a fence post, ball peen hammer, .22lr or bigger will do the job as long as you hit the rigt spot.
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I killed one with a 45 pound bow and was shooting a Tree Shark,and it did a fine job. I have some Badger broadheads and was thinking that would be an excellent head for lower poundage on hogs.
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Just an observation regarding the often heard comment that a particular head is shaving sharp out of the package. That's great, but after the first shot with one you still have to know how to resharpen them or they are a one-shot head.
Alexander, I have been thinking of trying one of the sharks on my next hog hunt. How was the performance in your experience. I like 2 blade heads but sometimes have a tough blood trail on hogs I have shot with them. I notice that the shark line has gotten pretty pricey--lots more than my tried and true Zwickeys.
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Two blade of your choosing you can get really sharp.
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David you will not have a hard trail with a Tree Shark. They are two inches wide,but they fly great. I hear people say they are hard to sharpen,and I have the sharpener that Simmons sells,and it does a good job.
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I have a 53@28 recurve that I shot many hogs with.
I used steelforce, magnus stingers, and zwickey heads.
BTW I have a 26" draw. So that puts me right around 47-48# at my draw.
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My personal favorite for everything is the helix. It is a 2-blade single bevel. I've hunted with 100, 125, 155, and 200 grains. My arrows have weighed 424-550 depending upon shaft and insert weights.
I have only shot deer with this broached but it is far sturdier than heads I've used to kill hog (1), bears (2), and other deer-sized critters.
My draw weights are 45-49 pounds at my 26" draw.
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In my experience,(on hundreds of hog blood trails)an extremely sharp three blade is best. They are also super easy to sharpen, even for me.
Hogs are notoriously poor bleeders(smaller vitals and less vascular than deer).
I personally keep one two blade(a Badger) in my quiver in case I run into a truly big hog. The rest of my arrows have 3 blade Woodsman heads.
Bill Langer's son Ben (age 12)killed three hogs(60-75#) with us last year pulling 40#, probably less at his draw. He was using 3 blade Woodsman Elites and heavy carbon arrows.
I don't like to denegrate any broadheads but I've seen a pattern of lost hogs(and a turkey) with guys using big, WIDE, two blade heads. With any head,the goal should be to put an entry and exit hole so one can find the pig. The three blade tends to put more blood on the ground(again, in my experience).
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Good post, tarponnut. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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A well built single bevel two blade such as grizzly, tuffhead, or cutthroat would be my choice.
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I just killed one using a Black widow SAV 46# @ 27.5. Arrow was a Carbon Express Traditional 250 29 inch length with a magnus 150 grain stinger with a bleeder weighted to 600 grains. The shot was about 12 yards from a tree stand. The shot started out with the hog slightly quartering away. The hog must have turned a little. The arrow hit the spine and drove about ten inches into the chest. Other than a lot of squealing and spinning, the 85 pound hog dropped in its tracks.
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In my penetration tests the STOS penetrates easiest, with the Magnus II in second.
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I was looking at some heads last night and I think the STOS was priced at near $50 for 6 of them. Does that sound right or am I confusing them with another head?
I have 3 woodsmans.
Since I'll likely be shooting carbon arrows with the 500 spine, it sounds like you guys favor weighting the arrow.
Should I weight my arrow to get it heavier? What is the target weight for an arrow + broadhead to have the best chance at a humane kill?
I'll get my scale out tomorrow and weigh my arrows and heads and see what I have. I've never weighted an arrow in my life other than using the glue on adapters and stuff like that.
Nalajr
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Nala, You're right, I just checked 3Rivers pricing and the regular Stos list at $42.99 per 6 and the newer head they have out is listing at $59.99 per 6. Guess I won't be buying any more Stos heads. :eek: What the heck is the deal with broadhead prices these days?
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Originally posted by David Mitchell:
Nala, You're right, I just checked 3Rivers pricing and the regular Stos list at $42.99 per 6 and the newer head they have out is listing at $59.99 per 6. Guess I won't be buying any more Stos heads. :eek: What the heck is the deal with broadhead prices these days?
You may check out Braveheart Archery as well. They sell STOS and the price is right. Great service and FAST shipping as well!
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Originally posted by KentuckyTJ:
Two blade of your choosing you can get really sharp.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner^^^^^
Bisch
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Read tarponnut's post :)
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I shoot Gold Tip Traditional shafts, 5 gpi weight tube, 100 grain brass insert, 3 blade Woodsman.
Total weight 610 grains, give or take.
I've recovered ten out of the last ten hogs I've shot with that combo.
Guys laugh when they look at the arrows in my quiver! All of them have been through hogs, rinsed/wiped off, heads touched up, back in the quiver:)