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Title: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 20, 2015, 08:25:00 PM
Until this year...

Over the years, I've primarily hunted with either a three or four blade broadhead. I tried a double bevel two blade for a year, but eventually went back to a four blade.

After talking to a few highly respected bowhunters, I decided to give the single bevel a try. It's the only "type" of broadhead that I've never hunted with.

Because of the high humidity and salt air, I bought a single bevel that had an aluminum ferrule and stainless blade. Although I harvested a few animals with them this year, the blade didn't hold up as I expected.

That prompted me to look for something a little more durable. After talking to a few guys, I decided to place an order for the 200gr Cutthroats.

So far so good. They fly well, are quiet in flight and definitely easy to sharpen with the use of my KME.

I've only taken one small billy, so I can't make a decision yet on it 's durability. I do know that I'll be spending more time with it in the hills. If I can gather additional "field data", I'll be sure to write up a review on these new Cutthroats.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 20, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Here are the first few single bevel harvests with the stainless/aluminum broadhead. Unfortunately after only three animals, the tip became deformed and the edge of the blade warped. It seemed as if the twisting of the broadhead into the hard bone caused the damage to the edge of the blade. It could've been a fluke but I had a couple other issues, so I moved on to the Cutthroats.


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Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 20, 2015, 08:41:00 PM
My Cutthroats and KME. I also need to thank Ron again for walking me through the sharpening process! He's the best!!!

  (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/rysanpei/IMG_2146_zpsa6zgztnw.jpg)
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 20, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
My first harvest with the Cutthroats. Quartering away, pass through and split a branch behind the billy. The broadhead just needed a slight touch up with the KME. As of now, my only concern is rust. We'll see what happens.

   (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/rysanpei/IMG_1994_zpsalj27uvc.jpg)
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: rbcorbitt on May 20, 2015, 08:49:00 PM
:thumbsup:  

Always good info Ryan!  I've been looking at the Cutthraoats as well!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: rbcorbitt on May 20, 2015, 08:58:00 PM
Just ordered 6 from RMSG.  Should be real killers with a 100 grain insert!!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 20, 2015, 09:06:00 PM
Awesome Bob!

That's exactly what I'm running right now. 300grs upfront!    :thumbsup:  

The Guys at RMSG are awesome people, I'm glad that Randy told me about them!

Plus the Cutthroats have an unconditional lifetime guarantee! Can't beat that!

Aloha!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: jt85 on May 20, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Ryan I know this is off topic but what bow are you shooting in that last picture?
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 20, 2015, 09:38:00 PM
Jason, that's my Thunderhorn 3pc longbow. I switched bows because the limbs on the hoyt started to splinter.

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     (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/rysanpei/IMG_2574_zpsl35bktyo.jpg)
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: old_goat2 on May 20, 2015, 10:06:00 PM
I just bought six more the other day for me and the wife to elk hunt with this year! Had real good performance with them on my deer I took last fall!!!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Iowabowhunter on May 20, 2015, 10:07:00 PM
I've got a half dozen mounted on Abowyer 35 gr titanium adapters. No chance to run one through a spring bear yet but they fly like darts and also super easy to sharpen
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: old_goat2 on May 20, 2015, 10:10:00 PM
Make sure you send Tommy those hero pictures for their site!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: KYArcher on May 20, 2015, 10:42:00 PM
Great broadhaed info, and that is a beautiful bow!   :shaka:
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: FerretWYO on May 20, 2015, 11:27:00 PM
Big fan of the cut throat construction and durability. I have shot them into everything but an animal.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Msturm on May 20, 2015, 11:33:00 PM
Great info! Nice goats
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: DiamondD on May 21, 2015, 12:35:00 AM
Don't know anything about that broad head, looks good.  My first Longbow was a Thunderhorn Heartstopper though and I loved that bow.  Wish I had never got rid of it.  I would love to have a three piece like that one.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 12:57:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by old_goat2:
Make sure you send Tommy those hero pictures for their site!
Thank you for the info on the broadheads! Image sent to Tommy.
Aloha!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 12:58:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by KYArcher:
Great broadhaed info, and that is a beautiful bow!    :shaka:  
Thank you!
Hopefully this works out and I'll be able to provide additional info!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 01:00:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FerretWYO:
Big fan of the cut throat construction and durability. I have shot them into everything but an animal.
They definitely seem tough! I need more time with them to tell... Thanks again for telling me about RMS Gear. They are "The Real Deal"!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 01:01:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DiamondD:
Don't know anything about that broad head, looks good.  My first Longbow was a Thunderhorn Heartstopper though and I loved that bow.  Wish I had never got rid of it.  I would love to have a three piece like that one.
I'll always be a FAN of Thunderhorn Mfg!!!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 01:02:00 AM
Thank you for all the additional kind words! I'll be sure to keep the Gang posted!!!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Jayrod on May 21, 2015, 06:05:00 AM
Trust me Ryan there built like a tank and shoot like one too I killed a jake turkey here 1st day of season and arrow went through the bird and skipped up the field 30 yds I actually thought I missed!! I was quite impressed cause these Turks are tough and have lots  of bones ....
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: oldgoat on May 21, 2015, 07:07:00 AM
Like my cut throats have not got any kills yet but gr
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: oldgoat on May 21, 2015, 07:14:00 AM
Well I don't know what went wrong, Ryan get you a little Armorall and coat your broadheds and shaft also let it dry then wipe off excess, also I carry lip blam and just apply a small amount on the broadhead. This might help your routing problem..
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: jt85 on May 21, 2015, 07:18:00 AM
Thanks for the pics of the bow Ryan. I bet those goats are good eating.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: old_goat2 on May 21, 2015, 08:26:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by oldgoat:
Well I don't know what went wrong, Ryan get you a little Armorall and coat your broadheds and shaft also let it dry then wipe off excess, also I carry lip blam and just apply a small amount on the broadhead. This might help your routing problem..
I just coat them with Vaseline but I ain't in the salt air anymore! Like the lip balm idea too!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: oldgoat on May 21, 2015, 08:26:00 AM
Well I don't know what went wrong, Ryan get you a little Armorall and coat your broadheds and shaft also let it dry then wipe off excess, also I carry lip blam and just apply a small amount on the broadhead. This might help your routing problem..
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Pete McMiller on May 21, 2015, 10:14:00 AM
Best luck I've had keeping rust at bay is using R.I.G. - Rust inhibiting grease.  Developed originally for protecting gun finishes.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: LongbowArchitect on May 21, 2015, 11:28:00 AM
Ryan: Check out the review I did on Cutthroat broadheads on 2/26/15 (Cutthroat Broadheads- First Look).

The new prototype Cutthroat 190gr glue-on and 250gr screw-ins are currently in the mail to RMSGear. They will be tested thoroughly and modified if required before they will be available for sale. If no modifications are necessary then they will be available in about 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: LongbowArchitect on May 21, 2015, 11:39:00 AM
Oops- I meant March 25 as the date of my review of Cutthroats.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: DarkTimber on May 21, 2015, 11:39:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by LongbowArchitect:
Ryan: Check out the review I did on Cutthroat broadheads on 2/26/15 (Cutthroat Broadheads- First Look).

The new prototype Cutthroat 190gr glue-on and 250gr screw-ins are currently in the mail to RMSGear. They will be tested thoroughly and modified if required before they will be available for sale. If no modifications are necessary then they will be available in about 4 weeks.
That's great news.  I've been hoping for a 250gr screw in!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 01:20:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by oldgoat:
Well I don't know what went wrong, Ryan get you a little Armorall and coat your broadheds and shaft also let it dry then wipe off excess, also I carry lip blam and just apply a small amount on the broadhead. This might help your routing problem..
Nothing went wrong, I'm just concerned with rust in general due to the high humidity and salt air. Exposed steel generally rusts fairly easy in the islands.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 01:21:00 PM
Thank you for all the tips on keeping the rust at bay.

Aloha,
Ryan
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 01:23:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by LongbowArchitect:
Ryan: Check out the review I did on Cutthroat broadheads on 2/26/15 (Cutthroat Broadheads- First Look).

The new prototype Cutthroat 190gr glue-on and 250gr screw-ins are currently in the mail to RMSGear. They will be tested thoroughly and modified if required before they will be available for sale. If no modifications are necessary then they will be available in about 4 weeks.
Awesome! Thank you!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 21, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jt85:
Thanks for the pics of the bow Ryan. I bet those goats are good eating.
You're welcome and yes they're yummy!!!


Smoked goat with onions.

 (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/rysanpei/IMG_1765_zpslp4edg5q.jpg)
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on May 21, 2015, 05:45:00 PM
Ryan Congrats on your Goats, That dish sure does look yummy.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: jkm97 on May 21, 2015, 07:53:00 PM
Nice job Ryan!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: oldgoat on May 22, 2015, 06:00:00 PM
Not you Ryan, I just posted before I got through writing . I think that Abowyer makes a SS head in single bevel. The ArmorAll coating is an old Wensel Bro trick for penetration . Bob
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 23, 2015, 12:42:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by oldgoat:
Not you Ryan, I just posted before I got through writing . I think that Abowyer makes a SS head in single bevel. The ArmorAll coating is an old Wensel Bro trick for penetration . Bob
Thank you! I appreciate the insight!

Have a great weekend!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 27, 2015, 09:24:00 PM
I was fortunate and had another harvest with the Cutthroats. Still not enough hunts to formulate an opinion, but I am impressed with the results so far. This nanny only made it 30 yards. Time to resharpen and reuse.

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Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 28, 2015, 08:09:00 PM
Just finished my first video. This one is in regards to broadhead flight.

 https://youtu.be/KoOwQJUNSSw
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Alexander Traditional on May 28, 2015, 08:24:00 PM
Good video as usual Ryan. I'm waiting for the glue on 200 grain.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Guru on May 28, 2015, 09:10:00 PM
Nice bud    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 29, 2015, 02:30:00 PM
Thank you guys!

   :shaka:
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Jayrod on May 30, 2015, 09:21:00 AM
As always RY Awesome tutorial!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 30, 2015, 09:24:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by pred80:
As always RY Awesome tutorial!
Mahalo Jarrod!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 30, 2015, 09:29:00 AM
Got lucky once again. This time it was a billy and he only ran about 50 yards. Complete pass through, steep shot, high on the shoulder and exited right behind the lower part of the opposite elbow. Starting to formulate some opinions about single bevels...

  (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/rysanpei/IMG_2785_zpsdpyq5ybm.jpg)
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: goingoldskool on May 30, 2015, 10:10:00 AM
Ryan,
With you being so proficient, I'm surprised there are any goats left!!!!

Nice job!

God bless,

Rodd
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Izzy on May 30, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
Good deal!
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 30, 2015, 10:14:00 AM
Thank you Izzy!

LOL Rodd!

I've been really fortunate this season.

Last year was a total different story. I was lucky if I even saw something...

Aloha!
Ryan
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: taxyman on May 30, 2015, 10:40:00 AM
Nice Goats and thanks Ryan for the info on those broadheads!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: snakebit40 on May 30, 2015, 11:06:00 AM
Congrats Ryan! Thanks for all the updates. I have some Cutthroats myself and love how sharp I can get them. I haven't shot at an animal yet though   :(   I have two days left of turkey season so hopefully I can get out and fill at least one of the two tags.
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: snakebit40 on May 30, 2015, 11:07:00 AM
P.S. That Fusion looks great! I have FirstLite in ASAT, but have been thinking hard about Fusion...
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on May 30, 2015, 03:00:00 PM
You're welcome Bill!

Awesome Jon! Best of luck!

ASAT is tough to beat, but I'm really digging the Fusion.    ;)
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on June 05, 2015, 11:50:00 AM
I think "someone" really wants me to switch to a single bevel.  I've been so fortunate with these Cutthroats, I'm actually speechless... Definitely having a fortunate season.

I'm just happy that my friends and neighbors enjoy goat as much as we do!

  (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/rysanpei/IMG_2840_zpskfxirdpx.jpg)
Title: Re: Over 20 Years of Bowhunting and I've Never Tried One! Video pg. 3 Update pg. 4
Post by: Msturm on June 07, 2015, 03:03:00 AM
Im heading up tomorrow! Great info!  Thanks for the thread!