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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: aim small...release on May 21, 2015, 10:47:00 AM
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If you've done all you can and your arrow is one or the other would it be better to be a touch weak or a touch stiff??
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Fine adjust with brace height. Slightly weak, lower your brace. Slightly stiff, heighten your brace.
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Thanks Trond I did not know that would help
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My arrows are just a touch weak so lowering brace height slightly would make a minor adjustments? Like 1/4inch or moreover?
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since you didn't ask how to fix it, I'd say a touch weak.. you may draw a tad shorter out of a tree or a awkward hunting shot
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I had a very smart trad bow tech show me something once that really surprised me .
I was having a hard time finding 105# wood for my 60# recurve . I was shooting in his shop one day and he handed me a few arrows and asked me to shoot them .
They shot good and with my other arrows .
He then told me they were 80# spine with 5 1/2" parabolic feathers .
He then told me that I shouldn't worry about the spine weight so much .
I still like to see my bare shafts fly straight though .
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Yeah they are definitely just a little weak probably nothing to be concerned about but like graps said I like to see them fly straight
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If you are bare shafting then you want them to be a bit week, adding the fletch will add weight to the back and stiffen them up just a bit.
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Yeah they are definitely just a little weak probably nothing to be concerned about but like graps said I like to see them fly straight
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Feathers are already on
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Can you hit what your aiming at with them? Do the field points and broad heads hit the same?
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Yes I can and they do fly just about the same
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if you cant see them kick with a broadhead and they hit with your field points I'd say they are good........
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If you know they are just slightly weak you can build up your strike plate. Peel the strike plate almost off from the side and place a piece of tooth pick or small safety match in vertically, a bit of barge cement on both surfaces for 5-10 minutes and stick back on. The same thing can be accomplished by replacing the strike plate with a slightly thicker piece of material.
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Originally posted by aim small...release:
My arrows are just a touch weak so lowering brace height slightly would make a minor adjustments? Like 1/4inch or moreover?
I strongly disagree with moving your brace height to adjust for arrow spine. There is only one sweet spot in your brace where the bow is going to perform the best and give you the least vibration & noise.... You should tune the arrows to the bow and not the bow to the arrow.
If your arrow is a tad bit weak, just shim your strike plate out a fuzz, or you can trim your arrows down a fuzz too.
Moving brace height to accommodate arrow flight should be saved as a last resort.
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" If you've done all you can and your arrow is one or the other would it be better to be a touch weak or a touch stiff?? "
My disclaimer...I'm no spine expert but I'm learning by reading a lot and building arrows.
I did just read that its preferable to build as stiff an arrow as you can shoot and then weaken it to shoot well by increasing point weight or increasing arrow length. The thought being that this will yield a tougher arrow that will recover faster in flight. This advice was originally intended for wood arrow building but the thought process seems sound. More than one way to do everything.... just food for thought. Good luck.
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Originally posted by aim small...release:
If you've done all you can and your arrow is one or the other would it be better to be a touch weak or a touch stiff??
..why settle?
if ya got it that close..why stop short of "perfection"?
..just askin..
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Weak
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I don't like messing with the brace heights and it all depends on the materials and the shooting tendencies when when shooting at game. With wood, for me, a touch stiff covers my butt when shooting at deer and turkeys. Adrenalin makes things have a little more snap for me. But when I am using aluminum at a 3d target, I tend to have a softer release, thinking about those damn rings makes my shot softer more often than stronger. Shooting longbows, that side plate thickness will make more of a difference with certain dimensions,materials and spines than others, like doug fir, for me.
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When I mentioned adjustment of brace, I was just referring to the calculator on the 3rivers website. It has been discussed before... Just saying.
"Fine tuning can then be done by adjusting the bow's brace height.
If the arrow is slightly weak (lower dynamic spine) for what the bow needs, then lower the brace height.
If the arrow is slightly stiff (higher dynamic spine) for what the bow needs, then raise the brace height."
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I'm with Kirk, on this one. When I get a new bow, I'm bare shafting and adjusting the brace hieght all at the same time listening for that sweet spot. Once I find it, that's where she stays. Then i start tuning the arrow to the bow.
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Originally posted by gonefishing600:
I'm with Kirk, on this one. When I get a new bow, I'm bare shafting and adjusting the brace hieght all at the same time listening for that sweet spot. Once I find it, that's where she stays. Then i start tuning the arrow to the bow.
That is the way it should be done. Tune your bow while bare shafting is excellent. Also... If you do this with a bare string it helps you get the slight buzz out of it once she starts getting close too....
I think if more guys paid attention to tuning the bows brace height correctly they wouldn't need half the string silencers that are typically used to quiet down their bows......
When I mentioned adjustment of brace, I was just referring to the calculator on the 3rivers website. It has been discussed before... Just saying.
"Fine tuning can then be done by adjusting the bow's brace height.
If the arrow is slightly weak (lower dynamic spine) for what the bow needs, then lower the brace height.
If the arrow is slightly stiff (higher dynamic spine) for what the bow needs, then raise the brace height."
Yup..... This can definitely work brutha... But at what cost?..... It's much better getting your bow tuned just right and adjust your strike plate or fine tune the arrows closer..... You'll end up with an all around sweeter shooting rig if you do.... Just saying...