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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: achigan on August 24, 2015, 02:02:00 PM
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While out after tree rats this morning, I took a panorama shot of my ground blind with my phone. It covers about 230 degrees, somewhat less than a deer takes in, plus less top to bottom. I tried to capture an image of what the deer might see just as it came to my shooting lane. All input, observations and (polite) corections welcome. (http:// [url=http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/jimavelis/media/IMG_0331%201.jpg.html] [img]http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee458/jimavelis/IMG_0331%201.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Looks good, very similar to what I do. Will you be setting with your back to one of the trees? I always like to have something behind me to break up my outline as well. A little more cover in front couldn't hurt, IMHO. If I'm looking at the right spot, lol. My eyes are just one of many things that are going south with age.
Bob
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I've got a nice little pocket there, IF the deer cooperate. front and back brushed in, room for me to stretch out my legs on a floor cleared of leaves etc.
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Small picture on my phone, I can't see a blind so it must be good.
Try changing the picture to black and white for a more " deer like view "
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I copied this from the Outdoor Channel. In addition to being dichromatic, able to see far fewer colors than most humans, The have poor detail rendering, 20/200 in human terms, and only see in a narrow horizontal band.
"Another major difference between human and deer vision is visual acuity, which is the ability to focus on fine detail. Humans have an area on the retina called the optic fovea, a retinal depression with a high concentration of cone cells. Furthermore, about half of humans’ optic nerves are connected to the fovea. This combination gives us the ability to see fine detail, especially for activities such as reading, driving or watching television.
In contrast to a human’s round pupil and concentrated cones on the optic fovea, a deer’s horizontal-slit pupil and retinal structure give them a “visual streak” with areas of concentrated cone cells. As the concentration of cone cells on the retina increases, so does the ability to see detail. Deer have much less concentration of cone cells than humans, which means they don’t see the same fine detail. Research out of the University of Georgia points to deer vision being in the range of 20/200, which means a deer should be able to see detail at 20 meters that a human eye can see at 200 meters. That’s the same as a legally blind person.
Because of the horizontal pupil and cone concentration along the visual streak, scientists believe deer probably see greater detail along a horizontal swath in the middle of their field of vision. For an idea of how this might look from a deer’s perspective, imagine a television screen divided into horizontal thirds, with the screen’s mid"
- See more at: http://outdoorchannel.com/article.aspx?id=3531&articletype=article#sthash.3MCzkm6H.dpuf
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I'm sure those folks know a lot more about deer than I do, and I know a deers eyes aren't It's first line of defense, but I learned a long time ago never to underestimate them. Especially at the ranges I shoot with trad gear.
IMHO, movement is our biggest enemy when it comes to a deers eyes, but I've had them pick me up when I was camo'd from head to toe, and I know I hadn't moved. Sometimes they'll go back about their business, but at times they just have to know what it is that drew their attention to me. I haven't had this happen a lot, and it seems like It's usually a doe when it does, but I've never seen a whitetail that appeared to be what we'd consider legally blind. Again, JMO.
Bob
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Yeah, nothing set in concrete when it comes to deer behavior. I've had a doe stare at me in open woods from 10 yards away, me standing there in the open with blaze orange on. She does the stamp and bob routine then dances off. All that being upwind of me.
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Adult deer may not be able to see too well (when you aren't moving anyway)but those FAWNS will pick you off every time. What is the deal with fawns? Twice last year I had a mama & her fawn come along and the first thing I saw was the fawn popping out of nowhere and staring me down then hopping back to mama,who now knows something is up and gets nervous.
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Looks good to me,is that a decoy or the real deal on the far left ?
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No deer out there OG :dunno:
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Maybe the ones who did the research need to get out and in a "real" hunting situation because I think they might want to redefine their conclusions. Most of the situations described here I too have experienced, especially concerning fawns. Was all set to take a big old doe a couple of years ago. She was with her fawn and I figured I needn't worry about the little guy at all. Well, that sucker had me pegged the moment it came out from under some brush. The doe was already in full view and she never looked my way. Maybe it was too young to realize it's supposed to be stupid.