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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: BrownA5 on August 26, 2015, 10:08:00 PM
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Hello all..... My wife and I are Associate Sponsors here on Trad Gang and you can visit us under the Sponsor classifieds tab. We are conducting a poll to see what type(s) of soap (cover scents) would be of interest to Traditional Bowhunters. Our current offering is a camo soap that is a combination of fir, cedar and oak moss. Other past offerings have included unscented, Vanilla and Anise.
We are looking to you all to share what scents would be of interest?
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Here in Mississippi I have used and had real good luck with pine scent. I normally pull pine needles off as I walk by them. I rub my clothing with the needle. It is amazing how strong the Pine scent is. I have also used cedar, but cedar is getting scarce in Mississippi.
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I would go for beaver castor and muskrat musk. These would also act as curiosity scents. The wives would love the rat musk, not so much on the castor!
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I have used cedar, pine, vanilla, anise, clove, garlic, fresh earth, acorn, persimmon, fox urine, skunk essence, and others I don't recall. I have had very mixed results. The only times I have had deer really come busting in on me were young animals. Acorns, persimmon and similar smells have only seemed to work during the time these items were in season. Garlic is the only product that I have seen deer follow with their noses really stuck to the ground. It does also attract yellow jackets, though. (Oddly, I have had some people tell me that garlic tended to deter deer.) Rut related products have had the same results.
If I were making scents for sale I would concentrate on food smells and natural earth scents. Would this work in soaps?
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Apple
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vanilla is my favorite
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Appreciate the input we are receiving. Keep the input coming!
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Dog in heat. I'm a little different.
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Thumper, you'd best be watching your back track if you wash in Dog in Heat soap just in case someones Great Dane gets off the chain. Just saying.
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Funny Thumper! Better watch out though, I see some wolves are finally establishing a pack in CA!
Out west here, I like sage as much as anything. Sage and Juniper.
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Early bow season here in Pa. , I'll grab a handful of goldenrod on the way to stand and crush the flowers against my clothing, seems to work and last, course I'm lucky no allergies.
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I've used HS scent wafferss for years and had great luck, animals actually come from down wind when the smell them.
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NL,
You're more lucky there must not be any chiggers in central Pa, lol!
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Here in CA, I usually grab a handfull of sage and rub it on me and stick some in my pockets. If I have enough thought to grab some, I usually throw some pine or fir needles in the bag I keep my hunting clothes in.
So... I would say sage and/or pine/fir
I would suggest researching different areas and market to that area. For instance, CA mountians could be sage and pine, while CA valley could be just sage or sage and oak.
Other areas/states find the local fragrant flaura and market the combos to that area.
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Always cut some pine up and throw it in with my clothes or store my clothes in the corn bags I use to feed deer in my yard, I'd say either of those scents....a subtle pine could be great.
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Any will work if you stay reasonably clean and down-wind.
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I tend to agree with Jim but I can't help but run safe on myself, even though my logical side tells me I'm wasting my time..
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its not to keep them from smelling you but to dilute your smell enough that they think its been awhile since you were there..
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Originally posted by Thumper Dunker:
Dog in heat. I'm a little different.
Thumper Dunker, now was that the Eastern Coyote or the Western Coyote that you preferred?? ;)
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Appreciate all of the input.... Keep it coming!!!
I agree that being clean is the most important aspect of "fooling" an animals nose, which is the whole reason we got into making all natural soaps (no animal by products), which not only clean but provide a hint of cover scent (more for clothing/packs/etc.).
Curious... anyone out there that has tried our soap want to share their input?
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I apologize for posting something that was outside the direction clearly stated in the original. I have a bad habit of being opinionated and expressing it sometimes when it's not requested. The moderators were correct in removing it. Jim
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This is in response to northern lights remarks about golden rod. I have a SEVERE allergy to rag weed and had extensive tests run when I was younger. Good news is that golden rod is not a severe allergen at all. It has a very moist and heavy pollen that is just not as easily wind borne as you would think. However, its bright flower is very noticeable in allergy season, this draws attention to it, but it is rag weed that is at fault. Rag weed has a very light pollen but no really visible bloom. In short, this made me think golden rod and perhaps other flowery scents such as privet hedge or clover would work in soaps. It might attract bees, though.
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Jim, no apology necessary!!! I certainly appreciate the view and was in no way offended. I saw your post just after you posted it but did not realize it had gotten deleted. We fully recognize that not all hunters believe in using cover scents or in their effectiveness.... that is ok. That is what makes our sport so great... we can have differing opinions, have the right to express them... and still be a part of this fellowship. Again, appreciate your contacting me and hope that we have many more interactions in the future!
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Sam, appreciate the post. We like your suggestions. These are scents that we had not considered. For folks with allergies our "just Plain Soap" (Unscented) has been a great product. Not only do hunters like it but we also sell to many households for everyday use. We always list all of the ingredients so potential buyers know exactly what they are getting.
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Thanks Dan, again I appreciate your being understanding. Jim
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Jim, we are good... we appreciate you!
Hope your season is a great one!
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Scentless
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Dan, truth be told, I went from using all sorts of cover scents ( in my earlier days, including skunk scent. . btw, DON'T do that) to my currrent thought of not wanting ANY scent at all eminating from me.
I will say that I use some of the wipe on scent control tissues and I believe they HELP keep my stench down.
Try it in for the morning hunt and go to splitting lots of wood for the camp right after. It really helped with the stink factor. I STILL smelled, but I could stand myself.
I hunt the wind and watch it constantly using a bow mounted wind string ( dental floss).
Last fall the wind switched a bit and moved my scent. I watched a small buck walk off the trail he was on, veering towards my scent trail and watched him walk into it. He responded as I would expect, where I expected it.
Next day a couple does walked that same trail, but stayed on it, wind going the same way as the day before. No scent to the does and one was shot at 5 paces. All from the ground.
Sometimes they win, but that's what that larger brain is for.
ChuckC
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Originally posted by BrownA5:
Curious... anyone out there that has tried our soap want to share their input? [/QB]
I just got two of your camo soaps (shipped to Plymouth, Ma) and hunting hasn't started yet till 9/15 but so far I'm very satisified with the soap,, the camo soap has a nice natural woodsy scent "not perfumy at all" and it foams up nice, rinses right off with no oily feeling at all, I also wash my hair with it and its so much better than that green shampoo stuff everyone uses that makes your hair feel so dry your afraid the hair folicals will scrape together too fast and start a head fire :campfire:
I personally don't know and never even met BrownA5 and I'm being totally hoenst when I say camo soap is well worth the money.
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In my area of Maine my primary cover scent on clothing is balsam fir. A soap that had that scent, rather than a mix (very little cedar in my local area would be good. oak moss sounds good. Fresh earth is always good, though might attract them.