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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Basstar on November 02, 2015, 06:34:00 AM
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When still hunting do you have your arrow nocked the entire time or do you keep your arrows quivered until you located the game and begin to set up for the stalk or shot?
I can see the benefits of having the arrow at the ready at all times but it would seem easier to maneuver and less tiresome on the bow hand to not be holding the bow with the arrow on the shelf the entire time.
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Never still hunt with an with a sharp broadhead on it. Any slip or fall could endanger your life.
A guy who lived 3 miles from me died when he slipped and ran a broadhead though himself. Never had time to get help.
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Hadn't even considered this scenario.
I've still hunted with my compound but use a WB which holds the arrow in place but had not thought about the safety issue.
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Leave it in quiver...when animal sighted and begin final movement into shooting position or set up then I place an arrow. Walking through woods with eyes focused on the quarry and not at the trail or obstacles in your path is asking for a fall...and with a sharp broadhead out and uncovered it is dangerous for yourself and anyone else you are following if not alone. My two cents.
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I have a solo stalker broadhead holder that is attached to the upper limb of my bow. When stalking I hold the arrow in my bow hand with the broadhead in the solo stalker.
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I normally carry an arrow loose in my right hand, sometimes I carry it in my left along the riser of the bow.
Guess I should rethink this.
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Nocked and on the string ready for a quick shot.
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I have a solo arrow quiver (by Black Widow) on my bows. It holds a single arrow for me and the rest are in the back or side quiver. I don't walk around with an arrow on the string. Too dangerous, too clumsy, and just not the right thing... but looking at pictures of old, it is very traditional !
When I am nearing a potential shot, things change.
For me, the idea of getting off a quick shot just doesn't do it. I am methodical in my draw and there is no quick shot.
ChuckC
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Yep sharp broad head on the bow while still hunting is an accident waiting to happen. However, I have made little leather sheaths for my broad heads and have carried them in my free hand with the little sheath on.
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I believe it depends on your hunting mode, and cover you are in. Many times when stalking I put the arrow on the string when moving very slowly into ground that I think holds game. Like when I am approaching some blow downs that have shown to hold pigs in it. Or Like when coming to the edge of a hill and peeking over. I put my arrow back in the bow quiver if I am going over, around and or through obstacles.
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I made a BH sheath and carry the arrow and bow together in my bow hand. Only while in a hot area. Otherwise I keep them in my side quiver.
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Totally depends on the footing and how fast I am moving. I had an arrow on the string ready to go last week. It didn't help me much, as Schulz states in his video, "the bow hand rises slightly faster than the drawing hand." At that point the arrow is pointed up a little. At that point in my draw at the buck, I hit my elbow on stick, blew up and lobbed the arrow over the deer, 15 feet away and I blew it. "That second arrow and the ability to get it out of the quiver and onto the the string" did pay off, the second shot, although considerably longer, was perfectly placed and my buck was down in 80 yards.
It is pheasant season/fall turkey season for me now. I have a shoot at anything broad head on my bow and I still hunt for pheasant. If one trips with an arrow the string, the first reaction should be to toss the bow if one is going fall. Going down with a death grip on the bow could be dangerous. I think ambling along with an arrow in hand is not much safer than having it on the bow. while I have never fallen with an arrow in hand, I did cut my bowstring once doing that.
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Looks like a purchase of some broadhead sheaths is in order.
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If your walking with an arrow nocked and you don't have game in sight, no matter what the flavor of the bow or arrow rest etc etc, your asking for Murphy to show him self and teach you his law! Hopefully you live to learn from it, I was lucky and did!
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Broadhead sheaths are very easy to make. Attach one to your top limb just above the riser with an elastic cord and you will always have one with you.
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Mixed feelings on this subject. Missed a shot at a real nice buck in Wi. because arrow was in quiver. I remember seeing in an old archery publication about carrying the arrow in your hand with broadhead pointed away from you. If you started to fall the arrow could be thrown clear.
I also look at "still hunting" as a very slow, methodical way of making my way through the woods. It reminds me of looking for booby traps in another time and place. You should be aware of all your surroundings, above you, under your feet, and on all sides. Once the critter is spotted then the stalk begins which means to me I redouble my above efforts to get closer.
I might be over thinking this but it is the way I was trained.
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'Ol man Murphy has a way of showing up at the worst possible time. This is the only "constant" I can think of besides death and taxes. Experience is a wonderful teacher, sadly (as one has stated before) it could be the last lesson ever learned.
Even with saying this, I have carried the arrow both ways. I use the footing and the potential shot opportunity as my guide for what is best at the moment. Fortunately I have never even come close to an accidental cut with a broadhead while hunting. I have also not yet spooked a deer while trying to withdraw an arrow from my (side) quiver yet either. However, I also usually err to the safe side of things in most situations. Getting hurt while trying to have fun, just doesn't make sense to me. It's all about the thrill of the hunt and not of the kill for me.
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You can see the solo stalker on the top limb of my bow, on the right.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/ColoradoElkHunt2011016.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/ColoradoElkHunt2011016.jpg.html)
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Once it has become a stalk, I tend to get an arrow from the hip quiver and onto the string.
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I use a Solo stalker and never remove the arrow until I think I have a shot. If the shot does not happen and I have to move more than a couple of feet the arrow goes back into the quiver.
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I'm not even really comfortable with an arrow on my bow sitting on my lap in the tree stand. I envision falling and landing on my arrow. Ugh, can't even imagine.
So no, I wouldn't still hunt with an arrow nocked. Course, I don't still hunt either. Just not productive for me.
-Jeremy :coffee:
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In the quiver while still hunting, nocked when stalking.
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At least when the arrow is on the bow it is pointing away, of course we are not doing back flips on a trampoline when there is an arrow on the string and it does make a difference on the type of bow that one is using to make that one finger control more practical. Here is a catch 22, pheasants are easier to kill with a crappy old Hi Precision 3 blade, (they used to make them here and i get them for free) or a three blade Bodkin than a rubber HTM. I have taken a bunch with steel blunts and have had a couple skip offs, but on the whole that three blade is more effective. How does one get the arrow out of the quiver and onto the string before a jumped pheasant is out of sight?
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I don't run with scissors, but I might walk carefully through the house with them :wavey:
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It is okay to run with scissors if you have the old kind that can easily be separated into two parts. The other old axiom , never shoot an arrow into the air, it may hit someone or something that you don't want to hit. The bottom lands of Iowa is not exactly a Walmart parking lot.
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Saw a Solo Stalker at Lost Nation Archery. Are these decent quality and is this a reputable company or any others to recommend. Thanks
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Lost Nation is a stand-up group and TG sponsors. You can deal with them with perfect confidence.
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I keep my arrow in my hip quiver while slinking through the woods, and when an opportunity for a shot develops I nock an arrow. I'm like ChuckC...I'm in no hurry and there is no rushed shots! My 2 cents! Thanks.
Kenny :bigsmyl:
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I still hunt groundhogs with an arrow nocked. Still hunting deer or hogs-depends on the cover, footing, and if I think a shot may be imminent.
I am sure archers have hurt themselves with nocked arrows but for the life of me, I don't see how it's possible. I always carry the bow to the side with arrow pointed down and back. Unless you are holding the bow backwards I just don't see it happening.
Also, a very slow careful still hunting mode would not cause trip/fall accidents. Throw in normal paced walking, snow, mud, stream crossings, etc, etc - now the arrow goes in the quiver.
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Well, you'll leave it in the quiver until you get caught with your pants down once or twice. I have an arrow nocked if there's a chance I'll get a shot...I have an arrow nocked and bow in hand the whole time I'm in a stand even.
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Back in the days when I still hunted, I carried an arrow on the string. Now that I hunt only from stands, I don't string my bow till I get there. But I do keep an arrow on the string while sitting in the stand.
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I've been scared of hip quivers ever since a buddy slipped and stuck an arrow in his calf. He was being safe by not having an arrow on the string, that did not prevent the arrows from popping out the hip quiver when he fell on a snowy slope, snagging the arrows in the brush as he fell.
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If you don't have time to safely remove an arrow from your quiver and prepare for the shot, it's probably not a good shot.
Stillhunting vs stalking.....
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I nock an arrow for the final approach usually just before shooting range. I keep the bow up and in front so all I then have to do is come to full draw. Watch the ground and plan your steps carefully.
The other time I nock an arrow is if I feel the hairs on my neck stand up. You might be surprised how much better your senses work if you start listening them!
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I have an arrow on the string when still hunting. I move slow and in thick stuff deer can appear and be gone quickly.
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Originally posted by Pat B:
I have a solo stalker broadhead holder that is attached to the upper limb of my bow. When stalking I hold the arrow in my bow hand with the broadhead in the solo stalker.
That. But I have a half of a Selway Piggy-backer to hold the shaft alongside the riser so I don't have to squeeze it. The rest of the arrows are in a side quiver.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Bowhunting/HPIM0346.jpg)
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It all depends on the situation. If you only nock an arrow when you see a ground squirrel you will never get him. Walking in the woods for deer its in the quiver. Jumping rabbits its nocked. Stalking its nocked. There's other stuff out there besides deer and some of those things do not give you time to nock an arrow.
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Originally posted by Thumper Dunker:
It all depends on the situation. If you only nock an arrow when you see a ground squirrel you will never get him. Walking in the woods for deer its in the quiver. Jumping rabbits its nocked. Stalking its nocked. There's other stuff out there besides deer and some of those things do not give you time to nock an arrow.
Hunting without a broad head is different, true.
I hunt rabbits with blunts. I usually have an arrow in my hand, and nock it when my beagle Daisy turns the chase towards me