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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: huntrite on November 11, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
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give me your take on them and pics would be great thanks
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Well, they're two of my top three bows. I've owned 6 different widows and 3 TTs. They're both very different. I love the grip on the TTs, however You really need to try both. Me personally, I'm a little more partial to The Widows.
My prettier Tall Tines
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/B2845B37-856D-40E1-80FA-85931D51FFD4_zps74c87jgt.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/B2845B37-856D-40E1-80FA-85931D51FFD4_zps74c87jgt.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/F78D8278-377C-4367-A072-9AF9E6BF4176_zpsxzv2tv6u.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/F78D8278-377C-4367-A072-9AF9E6BF4176_zpsxzv2tv6u.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/photo2_zps09f10914.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/photo2_zps09f10914.jpg.html)
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A few Widows
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/IMG_0244_zps0b4da14e.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/IMG_0244_zps0b4da14e.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/F3DC9466-DD65-4F6D-B259-C92E06DDD3D8_zpshskyr2id.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/F3DC9466-DD65-4F6D-B259-C92E06DDD3D8_zpshskyr2id.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/IMG_0286_zps041f2baa.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/IMG_0286_zps041f2baa.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/IMG_0111.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/IMG_0111.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/DA29F94D-48EC-477E-856F-F7B70423B00F_zps5jcwjvek.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/DA29F94D-48EC-477E-856F-F7B70423B00F_zps5jcwjvek.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/888FF947-C26E-47EB-AF00-999384453D8C_zpsul1k290u.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/888FF947-C26E-47EB-AF00-999384453D8C_zpsul1k290u.jpg.html)
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Sent you a PM, can't beat BWs customer service.
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Never owned a BW, have shot a few. For my $, can't beat a Talltines I absolutely love the custom recurve Brian made for me
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Black Widow.... :goldtooth:
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Boy those are two different bows right there! I'd try them both but I much prefer the TallTines. I've owned several widow recurves and longbows and was not a fan at all...Nice bow but much better to be had for less $
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Had quite a few of both and now only have TT's.
Breaking it down in every category the TT came out on top. Really like the BW's but they just didn't compare performance wise.
Good luck choosing...
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I like that 3 wood riser Shawn, gives me ideas.
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Originally posted by Manitoba Stickflinger:
Had quite a few of both and now only have TT's.
Breaking it down in every category the TT came out on top. Really like the BW's but they just didn't compare performance wise.
Good luck choosing...
BW makes a fine bow, and a looker!
Performance, and shootabilty goes to TT hands down.
Brian's grip is second to none, making for a very forgiving bow.
TT also will be faster and much more quite..
both great bows, but my vote is TallTines hands down.
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Have had both. I preferred the TT. But killed a pile of deer with my widow and it was a great bow but I was young in my trad quest and it was loud and I never could calm it. I am sure I could today though with what I've learned from folks here.
TT normal grip is really high and deep. My hand fit right down in it and it was great for me. If you have extra large hands you would have trouble with it. I am sure Brian can make them with lower grips though. Both bows had fantastic performance. I never have shot the Widow PCH but have wanted to. Mine was a PAIII. You really need to shoot them to figure it out or buy both and sell the one you cull.
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Originally posted by Izzy:
I like that 3 wood riser Shawn, gives me ideas.
Ha, Izzy, that bow sure is a looker!!
This is like comparing apples to Oranges in a way. You really need to try both for yourself. As I've said and others have mentioned, Brian makes the best grip out there. I've shot widows exclusively for 20 years so They feel more "right" to me. They are two bows that I will always have in my rack!!
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Widow for me, much easier to shoot due to the deflexed nature of the design. I thought the Widow has a more "solid" feel. Had a TT and did not like the grip at all. You won't go wrong with either though.
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Might also want to look at Blacktails. About the same $ as the TT.
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Here's my other Tines
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/32551CDE-CEB2-475D-952A-2BB1EE9681FA_zpsbgemk0na.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/32551CDE-CEB2-475D-952A-2BB1EE9681FA_zpsbgemk0na.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/D332CF25-B69C-4837-9EAD-08D6FF320F3E_zpskz1wvfag.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/D332CF25-B69C-4837-9EAD-08D6FF320F3E_zpskz1wvfag.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee393/seanb45/323F9C34-5FD6-40E5-99D7-E3654AACD11D_zpsxrnfbwi4.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/seanb45/media/323F9C34-5FD6-40E5-99D7-E3654AACD11D_zpsxrnfbwi4.jpg.html)
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Between the two I would have to go with the Tall Tines. Don't get me wrong I like the spiders especially in a long bow, but for a curve it's TTs without question. Here is a picture of my son and his bow.
(http://i.imgur.com/woJMW2U.jpg)
One I use to own. I miss this one.
(http://i.imgur.com/OWVVOb6.jpg)
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I too have both, and I think you should shoot them to see which one you might prefer. Though I like shooting them both they shoot differently. The TT may be ever so slightly faster but speed isn't the determining factor for me. My Widows are excellent performers and when shooting 3D's I have shot my best scores with the Widows. As I said I like them both and I like the grips on both. Brian for me makes possibly the best grip I have ever held in my hand. BW's are solid as Sherman tanks and shoot lights out and when it comes to company longevity Widow wins hands down. Both are great folks with great customer service. Don't think you can go wrong either way. I lean a little more toward the Widows and recently purchase a new one. Here are photos of mine to compare.
Tall Tines:
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Sonnygun/025-1.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Sonnygun/media/025-1.jpg.html)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Sonnygun/027.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Sonnygun/media/027.jpg.html)
Black Widow:
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Sonnygun/003-1_zpsoe80wswp.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Sonnygun/media/003-1_zpsoe80wswp.jpg.html)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Sonnygun/017-1_zpster9sv9q.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Sonnygun/media/017-1_zpster9sv9q.jpg.html)
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I didn't have either one before June of this year. Then I went bear hunting with a bunch of Tall Tines users. Keith Kocher let me try his TT out and I was sold.
I still have my Blacktail - it is very worthy of your consideration. That is what I shot my bear with. 53# with a Sitka Spruce arrow shot completely through the bear.
But, now I own two Tall Tines, one lighter than the Blacktail, one heavier. One standard grip, one lower grip. I love all three of them. Interesting side note: one of the TT was built from the left over wood from Gene Wensel's bow. Really cool looking bow.
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Tall Tines great bows, smooth fast and quiet.
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Straightshot, Those bows are outrageous! Can't comment on the TT never shot one. Been a Black Widow customer. In most of this vs that threads alot of the time it's a Widow that's being compaired to, gotta be a reason for it.
:archer2:
Denny
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Have never shot a Tall Tines but you can't go wrong with a Widow!
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I have shot a few TT's, and can say nothing bad about them. But I am currently madly in love with my Black Widow. I am shooting better than I ever have in 40+ years.
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I won't make a recommendation other than trying before you buy. However, I will point out that Black Widow will copy most grips on their bows if you so desire. So if you like a particular grip style you can special order it on your Widow.
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I have shot both bows and believe both bows are exceptional examples of the quality and performance of recurve bows available to archers and bow hunters today. I always wanted a Widow and when I went to trad shows, or got an opportunity to shoot other guy's widows, I appreciated the bow and have always been attracted to the reverse limb mount concept.
However, I have never pulled the trigger on buying a Widow but have owned six Tall Tines recurves and multiple limb sets. And also have a Stickflinger longbow. The grip on the Tall Tines is very comfortable, very repeatable, the bow is smooth, quick, reliable, and shoots great! Bowyer Brian Wessel has a keen eye for riser woods and veneers, his craftsmanship is supurb, and he is extremely easy to work with to build to your desire and specs. Over the years I have come to prefer his longer riser over the shorter riser, so I have sold some Tall Tines bows here on Tradgang. But I continue to order bows from Brian because for me, his bows are awesome shooters, feel great in the hand, and instill confidence during the hunt.
Like many Tradgangers I own other bows as well, but prefer the Tall Tines over a Widow. That's the beauty of trad archery and the the number of bowyers currently availble to us as archers and bowhunters. We like what we like and have alot of bowyers and bows to choose from.
Shoot both if you get a chance to do so and see what "sings" to you in feel, performance, and appearance.
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Never owned a TT but did shoot them a few times at shows. I have owned several Silvertips(very similar to TT IMO). Owned many Widows as well. Like the Tip the TT is more appealing in looks to me and the design maybe easier to make quiet than a Widow. That's the only advantage I experienced.
For me I've found bows I like better and 2 of them are based off of both designs. Try them all because you might miss a good one!
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I've owned a tall tines and three widows. I sold the tall tines and kept one widow as my main bow to shoot. It takes a little more to get it quiet, but it can be done. My widows were a lot faster too.