I never met Fred. That is a disappointment.
Passing on words of wisdom to the younger crowd here. There are things we dream of doing. For many of us, that dream may stay just a dream, unless we ourselves push and finagle and plan and make it happen.
There are some among us who are leaders or are, lets say icons of our sport. Do your best to meet as many as you can. They, and we, don't last forever. Some of these are mortal men ( and women). Some, like Fred, are a step above.
Do it........
ChuckC