Carbons to woodies advice

[Archer1977]

Hello all. I am soon to have more time on my hands and want to switch to wood arrows and am looking for some advice on what spine P.O.C. arrows to get. My bow is a dwyer original 48@28, I pull around 27, and it is cut nearly to center. My current arrows are Easton Axis .500 cut to 30 with 200gr total up front. Total arrow weight is about 485.

From some research I was thinking 11/32 65-70 arrows.

Thoughts?

Advice?

[Jim Wright]

Assuming you have a fast flight string I would think 60-65 spine fir/spruce/cedar arrows if you stay with a heavy 190 grain field point, 55-60 with 160 gr. points or 50-55 with 125 grain points.

[Shadowhnter]

For a 200gr point, you will tune out with a 60/65.

[Fletcher]

Carbon and wood are very different materials and I've never found a good conversion standard from one to the other.  Depth of cut makes a significant difference as will point weight and BOP length.  For a 28" BOP, I think Jim's suggestions are pretty good.  Even if your Dwyer is cut a little further out, with 50-55 the most you would need to do is go up to 160 gr points.

Some find that they can get over spined extra long wood arrows to work for them.  I find that wood arrows that are close to the draw length, bop, are more predictable for required spines.   The sectional stiffness of a wood arrow does not match a carbon.  Getting a lot of extra stuff out front with a heavy point can make the wood arrow more sensitive to release variations.

[Jim Wright]

I should have added that my suggestions would be for arrows 28" throat of nock to back of point.

[Zradix]

Hard to say for sure.
I have one bow that's 45# that shoots a 55# spine with 190tips.
another 45# bow shoots 60# spine with the same 190 tips.

Here's what I'd do ( and have done ) if you're really looking to switch to wood arrows for future bows and such...
GET A SPINE TEST KIT!

Leave em all full length and just paper test each one thru your bow(s).

Which ever spine shoots the best ...buy a dozen of those spines.
In your case probably err on the slightly weak spined shaft so you can shorten it to tune.

[abbatoys]

Good info there Zradix..

[slowbowjoe]

I'm pretty much with Fletcher and Jim on this. I shoot a set up almost identical to yours (and with a few bows before my current one). I like 50/55's, cut 29"BOP, with 125 or 145 broadheads.I also get good flight with 45/50's cut to 28"BOP, with around 125 grain heads.
Something to think about with the wood shafts - and appropriate broadhead - is your total arrow weight. Might want to specify the weight range you want when you order.

[Archer1977]

Thanks for the input fellas. I was planning to stick around the same weight arrow, 480 to 500gr. Thinking I would get similar flight(?) So I don't have to retrain my brain as much. Mind you I still consider myself somewhat new to this.

Also it does have an 18 strand FF string.

Is there a gpi range for wood arrows? I realize they will not be exact like carbon, but a range may help me. I have not found one anywhere.

[slowbowjoe]

That's what I was trying to suggest. Wow shafts do range, considerably, in gpi. They get heavier as spine increases. Then there's the point weight to add.

The arrows you are used to are roughly 10.5 grains per pound. That's about as high as I like to go, and what I usually end up with, +/-. Go up to 11 or higher, and you'll probably notice a real difference in trajectory anywhere around 20 yards or more.

I'm pretty confident you could go with 45/50's or 50/55's, tweaking with point weight and length. You have some pretty good guidelines above for what point weights would work. Hence my suggestion to guesstimate the best you can to figure it all out and go with a shaft weight range that will put you in the right ballpark. It will be worth it to get premium shafts from a trusted supplier to ensure that.

[BRITTMAN]

With that mild  r/do longbow shooting 45 lbs at 27 in. I'd bet 5560 cut to 29 with 160 grain points will work and give you 500 grains easy .

I am guessing that you pull about 46 pounds with that bow and probably lose a little bit in the release.  The Easton 500 spines out at 43 pounds, so I can see why that flies right.  The first arrow i would test would be a 45-50 cut to 28" bop with a 145 grain point and four 4" feathers, if you were here.

[NBK]

I also shoot a Dwyer Original 48@28 so I'll be following this one as I'd like to try some woodies through her!

[Wild Bill MCP 808]

Some good advice above, I think 50 -55 or 55-60 both should work just fine. You should play with broadhead weights to see which one flies the best for you.

Good Luck ! You will like how quiet woods are.

Tundra

[Archer1977]

Thanks everyone