Guide for Victory/Black Eagle. Which ones?

[Tedd]

I recently got some Easton Axis .340 Traditional shafts. They were easy to tune and seem like a shaft I would be using. I added a 2016 aluminum footing and have a really nice hunting arrow at about 23% FOC. Quickly, I can see the skinny shaft EFOC arrow has some merit. I have been using a Three Rivers shaft with 300 total up front so the move the Axis and more front weight wasn't a big jump.
Now I want to take a bigger jump to UEFOC.
I'd like to use the .204 ID for the variety of inserts available made by most manufacturers.
It looks like the Victory RIP shaft would be a really good one to use. But I don't know anything about them.
Are both Black Eagle and Victory made in USA?
Are the shafts tough? Even at lower GPI are they at least as tough as the easton AXIS.
What is the uncut length of the Victory RIP? Is the newer  RIP XT too fragile for deer hunting and stumping?
What shafts have proven to  be the best overall value.
I feel like a .300 Victory RIP with about 400 gr up front will be in  the ball park. I just haven't been able to pull the trigger on an order of shafts.
Thanks for any input.
Tedd

[Gil]

I have Victory RIP XV 340. They are 31 inches,and i got the stainless shok insert for them for addded toughness and FOC compared to their aluminum shok insert.Foc with 300 gn points is around 31 and it has slightly smaller diameter than my Beman mfx. Hunting with the, now but no shot yet.

[katman]

Don't nkow those answers yet but I purchased 3 black eagle x-impacts, light gpi, from lancaster archery to play with efoc/uefoc. Will be doing testing as season winds down here. You can by less than a dozen from them to keep costs down for experimenting. They are the real skinny shaft, come with an outsert and then can use the regular point/broadheads.

Played a little so far, 48# high performance recurve very close to center shot .300 spine, full length with outsert (33") and 325gr point gives 28% foc and bareshaft/outsert/point weighs 642gr. 4 fletch A&A weigh 8gr so right at 650gr. Looking good, bareshafts flying reasonably well but need fine tuned.

Currently shooting the widowmaker smash shaft and it is REAL tough.

[Longtoke]

can only say I have been using the cheap victory vforce sport shafts and have been very pleased with them.

[Longtoke]

tapered shafts are also something to think about

[M60gunner]

The Victory people where close to me when I lived in San Diego. I was told the shafts were made in Mexico like many of the carbon golf shafts are made. Seems their  EPA in Mexico is not as strict as USA.
Only complaint I have heard about the outserts is the shaft may break right behind the outsert if it hits a hard object.

[Tedd]

Thanks,
I couldn't find anywhere on their site where it said main in USA.

Tedd

[Bob Morrison]

I've been hunting with the Victory 3DHV and using axis components, 300 gr BH.Love this setup. Light but hits with authority.

Bob

[sticksnstones]

After Victory partnered on the "airbow" I won't buy anything more from them.

Black Eagle is a USA company, but their shafts come from overseas. I'm going on three years with them, shooting Outlaws which I believe to be an incredible bargain.

I'm changing to a different shaft line to get shafts heavier than .300 spine for my big hunt next year. Carnivore .250s, just checked my notes.

I haven't shot any of their skinny shafts.
Thom

[Tedd]

Well that is a turnoff four sure.

[TexasKing]

I'm shooting Black Eagle. X Impacts,  adding a 3" 8/32 Maxine screw threaded  into the outsert...30% FOC!

Yes, they are very tough.
Check out Widowmakers also....
Thom, Widowmaker makes a indestructible 250

I'm a huge  FMJ  fan, but both come pretty close in toughness, with decreasesd diameter

[sticksnstones]

Thanks Tim, I'll go check it out! Looks like a really easy way to get over 950 grains using that 300 grain outsert setup.
Thom