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Author Topic: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two  (Read 376 times)

Offline TxSportsman

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A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« on: November 30, 2016, 09:15:00 AM »
I am pretty silent on these forums and seem to only chime in when I am asking for help. I have soaked in a wealth of knowledge over the past 11 months that I have been active and actually shooting traditional. Thank you for all of the help either direct or indirect that you all have provided.

I hope to be able to contribute more to these forums in the future. For the time being I thought I would share a little experience and a few tips that have seemed to really help my accuracy and enjoyment. I know this has been mentioned time and time again but I figured it was worth another go as it's very simple and helped me quickly.

The first, is try something NEW. If you feel that you could improve, don't be afraid to try something new. For me, I have been shooting split for the majority of the past year. I have dabbled a bit with 3-under, tried gloves, shot different tabs... but for the most part its been tab split. Well I finally decided to give 3-under a legit effort. I shot a little 3-under with a tied single nock set for split. The results... were underwhelming.

But I liked the change. The bow seemed a tad bit louder to both my ears, and my wifes, but mostly it sounded like a different noise to both of us. That's something that annoyed me but I figured I'd stick with it for now. So, I tied on my nocks correctly (two for the set, one above and one below)for 3-under ( ), set my correct nock height (about 3/4" for me above LEVEL ARROW height), found a new anchor point (knuckle closest to my fingernail on my thumb tucked behind my jaw and underneath my ear lobe, and my outward fletching lightly touching my nose), and let her rip.

BAM... slightly better then underwhelming! Well that was two days ago. Yesterday evening I got to put in a little more time to the new feel and man oh man has my accuracy taken a tremendous leap finally. I am now able to pretty consistently hit about a X" group at XX yards, and sometimes even better! (those numbers shouldnt matter if your having fun and improving by the way). I attribute this to trying something new. Try new things; grip, form, release, release mechanism, aiming technique, target, hell if your old enough try a new beer while shooting. Will I stick with this forever? Probably not. Why? Because eventually I'll want to improve, or I may just need a change in pace... but that's OK because I'll be trying something out of my comfort zone, something new.

And guess what? That "louder sound" that was associated with 3-under... well it is a LOT quieter now that I am set up correctly and shooting correctly. Is it marginally louder? Possibly, but very tough for me to discern. I would mainly call it a different sound.

That brings me to my second piece of advice. Pick a smaller target! Whatever you are shooting at right now, downsize. I have been shooting at a small block target for months now, trying to pick a spot on the target. It works, and I'll continue to do it, but I had a discovery yesterday. I had just finished an adult beverage and lightning struck. The next thing I knew I had my can sitting in front of the target and I was at full draw staring it down. First shot, clink!, I nailed it. Just the audible sound of hitting something gave me a ton of satisfaction I really hadn't felt before on my regular target shots. I was focusing on the red circle on the can and now I was hitting X"-X" groups! Of course I had some flyers etc. but man was it gratifying.

Pick a smaller target. That's it... pick a smaller target to shoot at. I have been shooting at the same damn thing for months and months with decent accuracy. You may think this one little change in pace would have negligible effects, and for you that may be true, but for me it was fun hearing that clink of that can, fun shooter smaller groups, and definitely fun trying... you guessed it, something new.

I hope this gives just the slightest bit of encouragement to a new shooter, an experienced shooter, or possibly even a veteran of the discipline. Thank you all again for the help and the community. Shoot straight!
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 09:47:00 AM »
Good advice, thanks for sharing

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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2016, 10:03:00 AM »
Sounds like your journey is headed in the right direction .
Buy the way , I tie a water bottle cap to a string and it hangs in front of my block target .
It's kinda neat to watch that thing spin around when you hit it solid .
When it breaks , just tie on another one .
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2016, 11:40:00 AM »
Another great target is plastic, practice golf balls. They're cheap and can be shot to smithereens!  They can also be hung from a string.

I'm blessed with lots of soft ground banks to shoot into, and shooting tough arrows at leaves is another favorite of mine.

Cool post, thanks.
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2016, 01:07:00 PM »
Very good post! I've been going thru something similar. I started out shooting strictly instinctive and am good to 20 yards, but start seriously losing consistency over that. I've been learning all I can about Gap shooting and Fixed Crawl and have started trying them out. I've got a long way to go yet but it's already evident that I will be able get the accuracy I seek at longer distances. I will still set my hunting distance at 20 max, but I'll be having more fun at shoots and just practicing. Shooting longer distances also makes form mistakes more pronounced and makes the shorter shots seem easier. Using the arrow point to aim has also helped with a tendency I have to shoot before I'm focused on a spot (target panic), which I developed due to over bowing myself when I went Trad.
  There's always another level to work at or technique to try, so it'll never get boring or routine.
  Now I have to find a smaller target!
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2016, 05:10:00 PM »
A very cheap, easy, fast target --
Foam swim boards from Dollar Tree or Wal-Mart, or an old sleeping pad.  Use a Pringles lid, or another size, to trace/cut out target dots.  Cut old metal coat hangers to different lengths to stick them to block or bag targets, or hay bales.  Impervious to weather, last forever.  Sharpies make them whatever color you want.  I cut them out to replicate vital organs.

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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2016, 09:22:00 PM »
I appreciate the responses, and those are some good ideas for targets.
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2016, 10:19:00 PM »
I know its unusual, but my best practice is a small kids basketball and one arrow..

Kick it across the yard when it stops, shoot it. Go get the arrow. Kick it. Shoot it again.

It really helps me.. I just cannot for the life of my shoot a dot on a target, but I can bust that little basketball..

I need to get me a 3D target.


Your neighbors might think your crazy though..
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2016, 11:19:00 AM »
I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink DosEquisXX. That way, like you, I get to shoot at XX cans with XX groups. X being the unknown in the equation.
Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy - Ben Franklin

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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2016, 01:44:00 PM »
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Originally posted by highlow:
I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink DosEquisXX. That way, like you, I get to shoot at XX cans with XX groups. X being the unknown in the equation.
Well played.
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2016, 02:11:00 PM »
I too went to a fixed crawl for hunting....and once you bareshaft to get it tuned....its crazy how much more consistently accurate it is at those 15-25 yd shots
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Re: A thank you, a short story, and a beginner tip or two
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2016, 06:57:00 PM »
Good one Highlow! I can envision Fred Eichler doing that one.
"Always feel the wind, and walk just like the leaves".  ("LongBow Country"--Chad Slagle, "High, Wild, and Free").

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