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Author Topic: Back to split  (Read 547 times)

Online the rifleman

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Back to split
« on: December 11, 2016, 01:11:00 PM »
i have spent the past two months dedicating my practice to 3 under.  I have continually struggled with arrows hitting mostly to the right of my target ( I am a lefty), I had poor horizontal groups, but verticles were good.  I played around w bareshafts that were tuned for split and even attempted to retune, but kept getting mixed results-- one time stiff, the next weak.  I started trying to move shots in line w string blur w limited success.
Today I went back to split (Toelke anchor-2 under and index finger resting above the arrow but not pulling).  I noticed immediate improvement- arrows were now in line w my target w no lefts and rights.  Bareshafts showed consistent results.  I'm not sure what my main issue w 3 under was-- I tried focusing on anchor, release, form, but could not get it to work.  I really like the small gaps it provided and the idea of having better visual control of the shot, but I could not get it to work for me.  Fixed crawl gave me the same issues.
Of course when I switched back to split today I knew I'd hit a mile high if I tried gapping off the arrow, so I put a rubber band around the riser 2" above the arrow and started to nail the target.  
Has anyone else had similar results?
Anyone else use a reference on the riser?
I have no interest in using a sight, but having some reference on the riser may help my vertical consistency--especially important to me when hunting.

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Re: Back to split
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016, 01:17:00 PM »
I knew a guy back in the 70s that had masking tape next to the sight window and would mark that for different yardages .
Trouble with that is , same as sights pins , you have to hold the bow virtual in order to be accurate .
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Offline Sirius Black

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Re: Back to split
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016, 01:19:00 PM »
Don't feel bad, I gave 3 under a try for 2 years, and went back to split.
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Offline Mr. fingers

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Re: Back to split
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2016, 01:55:00 PM »
I waffle back and fourth. I prefer split. But have shot 3u for a few seasons I have been shooting split the last 2 seasons. Tried 3u this summer and was amazed how tight my groups were. Then the wheels fell off and I was all over the place. I went back to split. Quieter and faster for me and I feel I have more control. So a couple of weekends ago I came out of the woods with all my warm clothes on an figured I would take some practice shots into a burm with my blunt tipped arrow. I was all over left and rights. So for giggles I took a shot 3 under and plop right where I was looking. Tried a few more at different distances. And i was way more consistent. Tried a few split and was all over again. So I'm going to finish my season 3u. I still prefer split though    :goldtooth:

Offline Shadowhnter

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Re: Back to split
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2016, 03:46:00 PM »
I dont have any problems with how somebody holds their string.....I have never shot 3 under, because I've never felt I had any reason to. Ive shot split for over 30 yrs, and in all that time, if I missed, it wasnt because of how I held the string. Call me boring, but I dont believe in fixing unbroken things.

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Re: Back to split
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2016, 06:04:00 PM »
Once in awhile, I will make a wonderful running shot on a rabbit or a squirrel that has baled out of a tree and I know I would never have time to make the shot shooting three under.  That alone, keeps me shooting split.

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Re: Back to split
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016, 06:35:00 PM »
I shot an arrow with three under once. It was weird, I didn't like it, never thought about it again. Same with gapping, only a shot or two. I'm more of a hunter, rover archer and not so much of a target shooter.

To each their own but if I want to shoot more accurately I just bear down and concentrate harder. I don't look at anything but the spot I want to hit.
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Re: Back to split
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2016, 06:50:00 PM »
Shot split with a middle finder corner of mouth and the arrow will be in the same relationship with your eye as a 3 under shooter shooting with his index finder in corner of mouth. Besides your bow will be much quieter.
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Re: Back to split
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2016, 06:53:00 PM »
With a 50" Cobra I shot three under, my point on was 28 yards.  There was a 14 point giant around, he gave me several chances at over 30 yards I did trust myself enough.  Then years later I tired three under with a 52" Pearson, I had trouble lifting the arrow when I drew.  The only way it would work is if I slowed it down to less than my old target tempo.  I forgot myself once and just shot, the arrow went way up and way right.  there is now a hole in the 8" boards that separates my two up stairs windows.  I sometimes think it would be nice to shoot a short bow, but I have round finger nails and get that finger pinch inflammation very easy and would have to shoot three under, which I find is too limited.

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Re: Back to split
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2016, 07:06:00 PM »
I've shot split since I started shooting a bow in the mid 1960's as a kid. About four years ago I spent a summer trying to change to three under. My problem was when it came to taking a quick shot, without thinking about it, regardless of how much time I spent shooting three under I would fling an arrow split. Finally gave up on that experiment and went back to shooting what came natural.
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