Thanks, Frank. I've shot your old one before. I guess I just held the newer one. I sold my Orion, so I'm kind of looking for a replacement with less draw weight. I'm kind of intrigued by the Kiowa. It looks like a KM from the pictures, but kind of hard to tell for sure if the grip is similar. I like the way your new one feels. I also thought about making a road trip to The Footed Shaft to handle the Bear Cheyenne he has and a couple others. Sounds like the weather is going to suck tomorrow though.