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Author Topic: How do you choose a bear bait location?  (Read 887 times)

Offline Cyclic-Rivers

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How do you choose a bear bait location?
« on: April 23, 2017, 09:27:00 AM »
My father and little brother are going to start a couple baits this year on 2 properties. There are definitely a few bears around but I was curious about how to choose a specific location?  

This is Wisconsin, the use of animals like beaver are illegal.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 09:43:00 AM »
Charlie... I guess I would look at a topo map of the properties first, then some sort of aerial photos ( recent) which may be supplied by Google Earth.  See if there are any ridges, beaver dams crossing larger streams, pinch points between two thick stands of trees or swamps, anything that might cause more bear to walk past that spot than any other spot.  Then go visit and see for yourself.  Pick a couple that not only look right, but allow the best access for you.

I would start there.  and... I know we can't use meat or meat by-products and a few other things, but, do the regulations say I can't set up a camp stove there and cook myself and my brothers a nice bacon and egg  and pancake with syrup breakfast ?  ( as long as I don't leave any of it there including the grease).  

I really like bacon, so frying up a pound or even two would suit me just fine ( just don't leave any).

Course, I am probably a bad person.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 09:58:00 AM »
X2 on what Chuckc said plus look for natural food sources the bears would be using in those areas (berries),finding the food sources is the way I hunt them know since WA state made baiting illegal . I also like to study the air currents for the time of day you will be hunting to determine which direction the bears will be using for their approach to help to place your blind or tree stand.
There are lots of product to use to attract the bears that work great!

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 11:23:00 AM »
Travel routes, the back ends of bays on lakes and ponds , near swamps and creeks anywhere they have to travel around something of distance and near a natural food source. You cant compete with there native food source but the closer you are to it the more they will visit your bait site.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 01:51:00 PM »
Great info above.

Is it a spring or fall season you are referring to? Just asking as it makes a huge difference here where I set up.

Spring time I'd focus largely on the topographic maps to look for possible corridors for game to travel. Ridges or waterways for example. Then set up in a dry spot and not a swamp. The mentality of "back in the dark swamp " generally produces less bears.

Fall, baits near food sources that are already planted  (crops), or natural (berries or nuts) is very beneficial.

Bait with lots of bait. The idea of less bait to increase competition comes from cheap Outfitters not wanting to spend money and running with the "increase competition " excuse.

Hunt with the wind in your favour like you would deer. It helps!

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2017, 05:39:00 PM »
Thanks for the advice so far.

It will be fall hunting. Both properties are new and acquired last fall. Not sure about natural foods yet but they do love bird feeders lol.  We've found bear poop and my brother has a few on camera.

Both properties have a stream that runs north south. My brother's us at the bottom of a hill where my dad's is in a tag alder swamp.
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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2017, 06:16:00 PM »
Depending on when the season starts,  if it's around mid September like here in Michigan, you may want to try around any cedar swamps.  They'll be starting to wear their winter coats and wont like to be out in the heat if the temps are a little bit on the warm side.  If possible set up multiple bait sites, and see which are being hit on a regular basis.  Depending on the area here in Michigan we can start baiting in mid August.  The sooner you can get started the sooner you can start to get a pattern on them, cameras will definitely help you out with this.  Good luck!!!  Keep us posted on any success you have.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2017, 07:24:00 PM »
It's really not terribly difficult.  If you're hunting in Wisconsin, there will be swamps and marshes bordering creeks and higher lands.  Put out your bait where the swampy stuff meets the highlands.  Be sure to locate it so the afternoon sun is in the bear's eyes rather than yours. Keep prevailing wind direction in mind and have enough cover around you in the tree you select or ground blind.

If you can find pinch points (high areas between swamps) they'll usually be good.  Really don't have to worry about food sources. They will focus on acorns if there's a good crop, but that won't stop them from coming to the plethora of baits that hunters put out.  Put out good bait and they'll find it. As with all baiting, the critters will find you, you don't have to find them.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2017, 07:57:00 PM »
ON the question of wind direction - I've found it better to set up cross wind rather than down wind of my bait. Older bears want to approach from down wind to identify who else is at the bait. I always get busted from down wind but cross wind has worked best for me.
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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2017, 11:21:00 PM »
River bottoms or anywhere near a beaver pond.  Hang a stink bait way up high nina tree where the breeze can get to it.  Use oats, molasses and donuts if you can get them.  If you can get a dead beaver make a beaver cage so bears can't get in but the smell can get out.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2017, 02:21:00 AM »
I have my bear bait station set up on dry ground but close to a water source. Also it is set up in a very small opening with a lot of surrounding heavy cover. From what I have seem they seem to like heavy cover to approach from. This is spring time baiting.
 I use nothing but popcorn and molasses for bait. When I set up my bait station I will hang an  anise scent ball that I get from baitem907.(http://baitem907.com/bear-lure-products.html).

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2017, 02:29:00 AM »
Look for a trail leading to a public campground.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2017, 07:24:00 AM »
Great ideas folks. This bait is for a family member who drew a Wisconsin tag this year. They will be using a weapon not allowed to be discussed here.  I was curious because one day I will get the tag.
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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2017, 11:05:00 AM »
Since your on your own property, you'll be limited to what is already there for cover/access, etc.  Generally, I like to be in a spot that's away from potential conflict with other hunters (small game and bear) and especially hound hunters.  As noted above elsewhere, on the edge of thick cover is great. Take into account prevailing winds and your entrance.  If the wind is blowing from thick cover to your bait, great.  Set up where you can be low in a tree for best shot angle. No more than 12 feet if you shoot sitting down and less if you need to stand.  12-14 yards from tree to bait is good. You want a low shot angle so you are guaranteed both lungs.  Too high with a close bait and you're increasing your margin for error. Make sure you have good cover around your stand so that you can be hidden. Sometimes bears will come in knowing you're there, however, why give them the edge if you don't have to.   The bears will find the bait, period, so select the best spot for a stand close to security cover and where you can get in and out quietly without crossing over territory the bear may be laying up in. Try and bait the same time each day.  We've had bears come in right after baiting on camera's.  If so, you can do two men in and one man out with the other sitting for the hunt.  Do not introduce a new person to the stand or bait and ideally set up the stand when you set up the bait.  I had a bear that was coming into the outfitters bait in Ontario that was a dandy. The outfitter, myself and one other guy went in to set the stand.  That night the bear came in and hit the base of the tree where everyone had been walking around.  He turned and walked away.  Saw him again 70 yards behind the bait looking over the bait site standing on a log.  I'm convinced he didn't like the new scent from others who weren't baiting everyday. Don't be afraid of the bears. Slip out quietly after shooting light is over very quickly and quietly without light until you get away from stand.  Don't hunt if wind is wrong.  You'll fool eyesight, but not the nose and not hearing. Make sure stand is quiet.  Shot placement is KEY. Look at the shot placement guides at top of forum. Two lungs and you'll have a short happy trail. Poor hit and unless you have a dog, you're more than likely not going to retrieve a bear. They'll go for miles.  I've shot at and collected all three bears with 35, 42 and 60 yard trails.  I've been on other trails with poorly hit bears for miles. Hit them correctly! In Michigan, we have to keep bait on the ground. We dig a hole and cover it with logs to keep little critters out of the bait.  Trail camera is handy, just keep it on the trail in and out of the path you're using to get to the bait.  You'll see pictures of the bear going back to the camera, he'll trail you. A bear proof camera holder is a good idea. I've had buddies with camera's swatted off the tree and I've got close up facial pictures on mine.  Put some bacon grease on the logs you use to cover the bait with. The bear will get it on the bottom of his feet when he swats the logs off the bait and he'll lay scent trails out for you that can attract multiple bears.  You can start a bait site with a stink bait placed 10-15 yards from your real bait site.  Bear don't like rotting stuff, but they will eat the maggots.  Use sweets. I've used cheap dog food covered with cheap syrup purchased in bulk one gallon jugs, but see if you can get stuff from a bakery or other place like that. Also, when setting up your bait site, do it by some trees that you can build a 'V' with logs to create a wall that the bear has to come in and give you a broadside shot. You don't want a bear coming in at last light and plopping down facing you in the stand.

Good luck. Baiting in and harvesting a bear you did all the work for is very rewarding. If your successful, get the meat cooled ASAP.  Bear season is generally warmer weather and bear meat spoils quickly.  My last bear was shot on a 70 degree night and fortunately my buddy had a walk-in cooler which I got to place him in. Even in the cooler I put 4 bags of ice in his chest cavity.  The meat turned out impeccable.  Bear roast in a cast iron dutch oven is incredible.
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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2017, 12:28:00 PM »
Some things you need to check on is what you can or can't use for baits and how you can bait. You really need to go over the laws on this. Here in Michigan you cannot container bait so I dig a hole to toss the bait into, cover with med size logs (the kind I can handle alone) and then place large rocks on top of the logs. Makes he bear work for their food and allows you to set up for the shot.

I go in on my baits alone and wear the same rubber boots when I do. I put them on at the back of the truck when I go to a bait and slip them back off when I get back to the truck. You unknowingly  step on something  between baits and drag that smell into the next bait you will be wasting your time.

They have a nose second to none so watch your winds. Also if you use your timers or recorders, set them up before you bait. If you set them up after you bait you will transfer baits smells to  them and then the bear will have a field day with your electronics.  I made a protective cage for my camera to protect it.

Have a good hunt.

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Re: How do you choose a bear bait location?
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2017, 07:34:00 AM »
Thanks for the info.
  My brother set a camera on his property where we suspected bear travel. So far he's been seeing one that is about 100 lbs and another large bear with scars on his face.
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