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Author Topic: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow  (Read 559 times)

Offline Trond

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Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« on: May 10, 2017, 05:13:00 PM »
My Cayuga measures #33@28", or about #36 at my drawlength. Looking for some ultralight arrows for 3D shoots to get the speed up a bit, without getting to low gpp. Whats can I shoot to get the highest speed and flattest trajectory? Make and model of arrows will be appreciated.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 05:31:00 PM »
Gold Tip 15/35 or Carbon Express 70 for carbon.

1716 for aluminum...or maybe even 1816 at longer.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 06:10:00 PM »
Gold Tip Ultralight 600's are lighter than the GT 1535 Trads.  I use them cut to 29" for 3D with my 40# bow.  Left full length they should work fine at your longer draw length and lower weight.  Probably use them with either 50 or 75 grain points.  You'll need to experiment to get the best point weight.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 06:20:00 PM »
Call Big Jim. Tell him what you want. He will fix you up.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 06:21:00 PM »
Gold Tip Entradas, .600 and 30.5"L with 75 gr points and weigh 297.8 grains out of a 36# bow. They are very fast. And won't break the bank.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2017, 07:25:00 PM »
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Gold Tip Entradas, .600 and 30.5"L with 75 gr points and weigh 297.8 grains out of a 36# bow. They are very fast. And won't break the bank.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2017, 07:34:00 PM »
I got to shoot one of those new fangled Hoyt Santori bows recently. At 35# his arrows were 700 spine Vaps. But his draw is shorter than yours. He had some of those real pointy glue in target pts. on them as well.

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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2017, 07:43:00 PM »
Easton Axis .700s.

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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2017, 08:12:00 PM »
Easton 1913 aluminums.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 05:43:00 AM »
Carbon Express Predator IIs, 800 spine.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 04:41:00 PM »
My arrow choice for my 38# ILF bow are the Victory VAP .600 spine. They're cut at 29.5" BOP with a an 80 grain tip. These arrows are 5.5 gpi and weigh in at 263 total finished arrow weight.

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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2017, 05:18:00 PM »
I´m currently shooting Gold Tip Trads weighing in at well over 400grains, so anything lighter will be an improvement. My local shop has the GT Entrada in stock, so I guess those will be the obvios choice. I reckon I should take the 2 hour drive and visit him for a test shoot, maybe a chrono check. Thanks for all the tips, guys
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2017, 05:43:00 PM »
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My arrow choice for my 38# ILF bow are the Victory VAP .600 spine. They're cut at 29.5" BOP with a an 80 grain tip. These arrows are 5.5 gpi and weigh in at 263 total finished arrow weight.
I may have to try them on my field archery bow.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2017, 08:55:00 PM »
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My arrow choice for my 38# ILF bow are the Victory VAP .600 spine. They're cut at 29.5" BOP with a an 80 grain tip. These arrows are 5.5 gpi and weigh in at 263 total finished arrow weight.
I may have to try them on my field archery bow. [/b]
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2017, 08:01:00 AM »
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Gold Tip Entradas, .600 and 30.5"L with 75 gr points and weigh 297.8 grains out of a 36# bow. They are very fast. And won't break the bank.
What kind of insert, or do you use glue-in points?
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2017, 01:50:00 PM »
I have an old recurve I really like that is about 34 to 35# at my draw length. Currently using Axis Trad 600's since they fit my other heavier bows, but I am switching to standard black colored Easton Axis shafts, which Easton makes in a 700 size.  Expect better results with some 125 grain points on the 700's than with the 600's I have now with 75 grain brass inserts plus points up front I use now to make them shoot well.  I just change points on the 600's for the rest of the heavier bows.

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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2017, 03:57:00 AM »
Interesting... I ran some number through Stu Millers calculator, and if I build out my strike plate 1,6mm or 1/16", I am spot on for a Gold Tip Entrada 700 cut to 30" with a 12gr insert and a 100gr point. Gives me an arrow 293gr and a 8,4GPP. Not sure of my bow, though. I have sent a request to BearPaw as to how low I can go I arrow weight.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2017, 04:13:00 AM »
Even more interesting... If I use the specs of my GT Trads in the calculator, defining the arrow as "other", I get a much lower dynamic spine than using the specific GT 1535 Trad option. Why?
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2017, 07:04:00 AM »
CE Predator II 2040 from Big Jim. 600 spine.
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Re: Light 3D arrows for light weight bow
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2017, 02:21:00 AM »
Well...I got an answer from Bearpaw in Germany, and they say that anything over 5GPP is safe. That means I can build an arrow weighing in at under 200gr total  :eek:  That should be a fast one...
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