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Author Topic: Swarovski binoculars  (Read 577 times)

Offline bowfanatik

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Swarovski binoculars
« on: July 22, 2017, 09:54:00 AM »
Hi guys

I really need your advice!
For scouting in woods, maximum visibility 120 meters
What is your recommendation?
8x30
8x25
10x25
10x30

What would be good choice?

Help please
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Offline Ward / Texas

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2017, 09:59:00 AM »
8X30 for enhanced field of view and light gathering.  The 8X30s Swaros are great binos!  For your application, it's too bad the 7X30 aren't more common.
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2017, 10:00:00 AM »
I like 8 or 10x42's the best personally.  I know some guys prefer smaller binocs for weight but I'd rather have ones that also work in more open country.  Buy once cry once.  More light gathering dawn and dusk.
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2017, 10:02:00 AM »
That being said, I agree with Ward the 8x30s would be more than adequate for you.
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2017, 11:32:00 AM »
I have the 8x32 and treat me very well even scanning larger ranges but they really come to life among other optics during low light conditions
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 12:01:00 PM »
I have the Swarovski 8x30 CL Companions. I hunt primarily the Ozark Mountains and hardwoods bottomlands. Both have heavy timber. Unless you're on a road (not legal to shoot) or it's late season in the mountains and your scanning the next hillside over, it's extremely difficult to see beyond 100yds.

In that kind of cover I'd recommend either a 6x (Swarovski doesn't make one) or an 8x, depending on what your hunting.  I went with 8x as my primary bino power because I hunt a lot of small game animals and also like to do some informal birdwatching while in the woods. 8x gives me a little more optical magnification for those activities but it cost me in field of view for when I hunt deer, pigs, and turkey. Also, 8x would be adequate enough that if I ever get to go out west I'm not likely to feel the need for another pair. I'd recommend NOT going to a 10x as you will loose more field of view, require larger and heavier binos to maintain the same brightness, have a less steady view as wobbles will be magnified even more, and for hunting purposes not really gain any significant benefit from the higher magnification in terms of being able to locate animals, ID gender, and if it's legal to shoot.

When I looked into high end 8x optics what I was looking for was:  
  • Bright enough and good enough contrast/resolution to hunt +/-30 minutes of dark and still be able to ID gender on pigs, locate small game in shadows and against trees, and count antler tines on deer
  • As small and light as possible as i am a very mobile hunter and as a bowhunter that prefers a chest harness I wanted the binos out of the way as much as possible.
  • Focus adjustment that was smooth and consistent in both directions that was fast enough to not be tedious in the field
  • Depth of field deep enough to not have me chasing the focus knob while hunting
  • Good ergonomics
  • Good enough optical quality to allow me to spend several hours glossing without excessive eye strain/fatigue. I'm particularly sensitive to this because I have eye allergies, dry eyes, a very heavy astigmatism, and some damage to my eyes from chemicals. I struggle to look though some binos over the course of a hunt without getting headaches and burning eyes. I also struggle with computer/tv screens and driving at night.
I looked at and used several and for my needs the CL Companions were the overall best format to fit my needs and preferences. They are my favorite and most frequently used piece of hunting equipment and I wouldn't do anything different if I had to buy another pair today. I was hunting feral pigs last night with them and in partly cloudy conditions in HEAVY cover I was still able to see for ~65-70 yards for about 45 minutes after sunset on the west side of the mountain.  When I came in during daylight my max line of sight was similar except for a few pockets that were well lit from a hole in the canopy behind some vines/berries. After the sun went down and those pockets weren't backlit anymore I couldn't see through the stickers and berries anymore but I doubt you could have got a clean view of that even with night vision honestly.

I skipped the pocket class of binos despite being smaller because they just aren't as bright or clear in low light and frankly the ergonomics are pitiful. I don't think they were ever intended to be a serious use tool but rather were intended to simply function and be easily transportable. I view them a lot like the mouse gun/pocket pistol class of guns that are engineered for carry more so than use. Since I use mine a lot I wanted a more full, more ergonomic, and an optically superior set of glass.
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2017, 12:18:00 PM »
8X30.
I bought a set Swaro's about 25 years ago. I got very good service out of them.  I broke the center piece cover after about ten years of hard service. I sent them in and received a brand new set no charge.

I thought I needed a 10X40s so I traded for a set of Leica. For my use they were too heavy and I quit carrying them around my neck. Although they were great glass as well.

I had a chance to buy a pair of 8X30 SLC again at a great price from Tippit here so I did and traded the Leicas off.

Very happy with my choice, although I have been looking at 8×20s lately. Just love good glass.
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2017, 12:21:00 PM »
8X30 for what you described as the usage.

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2017, 03:01:00 PM »
Of those 4 choices, the 8x30s.  Everything else had too small an exit pupil for low light. While actually hunting till dark, I prefer 7x42s but for scouting I have a pair of high end Nikon 8x32s that work quite well.

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2017, 03:05:00 PM »
I've had a bunch of high end binos.  Love my Swarovski 8x30 CL

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2017, 05:02:00 PM »
Thanks guys
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2017, 05:55:00 PM »
Doesn't the Swaro come in 8x32 rather than 8x30?  Regardless, it would be my choice for the conditions you describe.  Plenty of magnification, light gathering and still relatively small and light.  

Actually, I use 8x32 Leicas.  Just a tad smaller and lighter than the Swaros.

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2017, 06:00:00 PM »
I have the 8x30 and also hunt in wooded areas but also use them scouting at longer distances. These are the best piece of hunting gear I own. I've had them going on 20 years and had them rebuilt twice. I am very hard on equipment and they are with me constantly when in the field. I wouldn't trade them for anything
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2017, 06:20:00 PM »
I bought my Swaro 8x30 in 1991. Best investment I ever made. A few years ago, the clip holding the strap to the body broke and I sent them back. They came back with what looked like new or completely reconditioned pair. I carry them every time I go hunting. I use them out west for elk and mule deer and for whitetails, turkey, groundhogs, squirrels baCK HOME.
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2017, 06:59:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Orion:
Doesn't the Swaro come in 8x32 rather than 8x30?  Regardless, it would be my choice for the conditions you describe.  Plenty of magnification, light gathering and still relatively small and light.  

Actually, I use 8x32 Leicas.  Just a tad smaller and lighter than the Swaros.
ELs are 32 and SLCs are 30

Of your choices listed I would pick the 8x30/32. I will also say if you want an all around great Bino, one you won't be underpowered with out west, I've never had a problem with Leica/Swarovski/Zeiss 10x42s I owned over the years in the thickest cover at stickbow range.

More important than the size is to buy the top end glass. I'd use my 8x20 Leica Ultravids of hundreds of other larger models.

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2017, 10:11:00 PM »
I have both the 8x42s and the 8x32s.  Even though the 32s are lighter, I use the 42s more often due to field of view and better light gathering. This is especially true when using in dense woods.

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2017, 11:20:00 PM »
8x30 would be my choice from your list. However, I think the 8.5x42 is he near perfect bino! Good luck with your choice.

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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2017, 09:51:00 AM »
Any hunter that knows anything realizes the importance of a GOOD pair of binoculars. I can't remember when I bought my 8X30 Swarovski's  but they were half the price they're going for now. I consider them my most important piece of hunting equipment.
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Re: Swarovski binoculars
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2017, 10:01:00 AM »
I agree Ron. Same here, I hated to lay down the cash for my Swaro's several years ago. Here we are after several trips Alaska, Canada,ect. Through rain wind and weather. unbelievable conditions their as new. At the 11 year mark, I took advantage of the free cleaning and inspection. They arrived back as new ,with a page long list of replaced items including the outer armour and a note at the bottom "No Charge". I certainly appreciate the quality long after I forgot the price.

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