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Offline amicus

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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2017, 05:03:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Jakeemt:
Do you guys always use hunter specific packs or will other companies like Kelty work too?
Kelty frame packs work really well, Just heavier than most.

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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2017, 08:45:00 PM »
ILBE good enuff for the troops will get the job done.I bought a new one on the bay for 75$

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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2017, 09:31:00 PM »
I picked up a kuiu ultra 6000 with a nother ultra3000 bag for some upcoming hunts. I have been hauling 50#bags of corn to the pig feeders all summer,some over a mile walk. Also done some hiking and camping with it. No complaints. My advice is to make sure whichever brand you buy fits you well. They are all designed to carry loads, and they all carry them better if they fit.
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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2017, 09:34:00 PM »
Unlike most opinions I’m seeing I wil only do hunting packs and here’s my opinion why. I’m sure a backpacking pack is lighter and more comfortable than hunting packs. But I plan on hauling meat out sometime. I’m pretty sure those packs won’t be as comfortable with 100# for a few miles for a couple or more trips, at least from what I’ve experienced. I’ll buy a hunting company pack every time. Plus a bonus is supporting companies that support us and our lifestyle. Just my opinion
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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2017, 12:17:00 PM »
Good thread !
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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2017, 12:21:00 PM »
I saw a suggestion for a 5500 cii pack , that's huge ! I have a badlands 2200 that should be good enough . It is rugged enough to pack meat , and loaded full of meat would be more than you could carry . I have found the bigger the pack , the more useless junk you will carry and the experience becomes miserable if not impossible . 40 # of gear is more than you need, and the 2200 will carry that and then some . What won't fit in it will lash to outside , (bulky items)
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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2017, 12:33:00 PM »
PM sent.

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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2017, 01:31:00 PM »
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I saw a suggestion for a 5500 cii pack , that's huge ! I have a badlands 2200 that should be good enough . It is rugged enough to pack meat , and loaded full of meat would be more than you could carry . I have found the bigger the pack , the more useless junk you will carry and the experience becomes miserable if not impossible . 40 # of gear is more than you need, and the 2200 will carry that and then some . What won't fit in it will lash to outside , (bulky items)
There is a little bit of good advice in this thread, I’m sure Wingnut’s PM to you will be as well, but there is a LOT of bad advice like above. The key is the use of the word “should”...

As a person who packed out my day hunting gear and a Sitka Blacktail; meat, horns, and cape I can unequivocally tell you this is a   HORRIBLE  idea. This load was 93# and was in an American made 2200 (they don’t make them as good today) by a 15 year younger, stronger, and dumber Steve O.  I vowed that day to find a better pack. And I have tested and owned a ton over those years.

You will find packs specially designed to do what you want by Stone Glacier, Mystery Ranch, Exo, and Kifaru—good luck with anything else; Sitka, Kuiu, Eberlstock, and Badlands are   distant  seconds and anything beyond that will just give you pain and suffering and a waste of good money. You will find packs in the backpacking realm to do what to do with a lot of searching and testing; again, good luck. The key is YOU are going to have to decide what you want and YOU are going to have to test them under field conditions and loads. For instance, Kifaru makes great packs and many swear by them. I’ve tried 3 times to make one work for me. No go.

Enjoy the process and your actual experience is going to account for a lot more than internet opinions.

Offline Jack Skinner

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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2017, 01:43:00 PM »
Oregon Pack Works. Interchangeable pack system. I got my Orion used for half new price. It was perfect for my elk hunt this fall even though I didn't get to pack out meat with it. I am going to add the green gate body next for longer excursions.

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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2017, 03:31:00 PM »
I've had two internal frame backpacks, but always come back to my older Kelty external frame.  You should be able to get  a used one for around $50-$60.  I used one on a goat hunt and on my trip out 8 miles my load was around 100 pounds. You might do better than a Kelty, but you won't go wrong with it.
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Offline YosemiteSam

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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2017, 04:00:00 PM »
So much depends on how far you're going.  If it's just a few miles, you can get away with cheaper & heavier stuff than if you're in the 5, 10 or 20 mile range.  I've gone back for a second load a time or two if the miles are short.  Makes a more comfy camp.  But once I'm going over 3 miles, I'll start cutting out the non-essentials & rethink how I'm using what I'm bringing.  

Look for multiple purposes for the same gear.  Sometimes, I'll sleep in my coat & take a lighter sleeping bag, for example.  I can sleep in a coat but I can't hunt in my sleeping bag.  Sort of like the kitchen tool rule -- single purpose tools have no place in a working kitchen.  Look for as many multiple use items as possible.

If weight is a factor, forget the hammock and the tent and do the bivy sack.  My ultralight tent weighs in at 3# with the ground tarp.  My hammock & tarp comes in about the same.  But my bivy & tarp is only about 13 oz combined.  It's from Borah Bivy -- just a guy with a sewing machine & a website from what I can tell.  I opted for a tent this year and glad I did since these were short miles.  But for long miles, a bivy sack is the way to fly.  I was told once that you have to choose your objective.  Either you can choose to have a comfortable hike or you can choose to have a comfortable camp.  But you can't have both.  The bivy is a way to make the hike more enjoyable but at the expense of having a full tent back at camp.

Going in groups helps, too.  Shared gear can be spread around.  When I hit the trail with a buddy, one of us will carry the bear canister while the other gets the stove, water filter & a couple extras.  The more, the merrier.  Solo is harder.  I only hunt solo but backpack with others a couple times a year.

I've been drawn to the packs that have some modularity.  I don't like carrying a full frame pack all day while hunting so I end up taking my daypack.  That means I'm actually carrying 2 packs, one of which is taking up space and adds an extra pound or so to the base weight on the way in.  I'll probably upgrade to a more modular system at some point.  But if I had to start from scratch, I'd go for something more modular where there is a removable daypack or something of that sort.

Food is another area where some weight & space can be shaved.  Pre-packaged meals are lighter but take up a lot of space.  Home-made is more compact but a little heavier.  I tried (and liked) going a little lighter on food on my last trip.  Bfast & lunch were pretty sparse but then I had large dinners.  That saved a little weight overall.  Having a dehydrator helps a lot for making your own stuff.

Water is a huge weight.  At 8# per gallon, that 2-liter hydration pack adds a little over 4# (4# of water + the weight of the bladder & tube).  If a lot of miles need to be covered, I'll plan my route more carefully and carry only as much water as I need to make it to the next creek crossing.  Refill your belly and a small water bottle at each crossing and you can make it a few more miles until the next stop.

Ounces add up to pounds.  Pounds add up to pain.  Cut a bunch of little things and they'll start to add up to some significant weight savings.  Forget the small tube of toothpaste & take a dime bag of baking soda.  Wrap just the floss you need around your toothbrush & leave the container.  Why take a full toothbrush when you can just cut off the handle?  Do you need a full knife or will a box-cutter do just as well?
  Little nitpicky stuff like that adds up after a while.  I once read about a guy who took the tags & string off his bags of tea.  That's a little much for me but it's the mindset that helps.
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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2017, 05:26:00 PM »
I have had a similar experience as SteveO and learned my lesson. His list in order of preference is dead on. I'm the kind of person that likes to spend money well one time and after my bad experience with a borrowed ill suited pack I went with EXO 3500. Cinch straps will pull it down to the size of a 2200 daypack when you don't need to carry a lot. You can carry meat between the bag and frame or drop the bag and add the crib carrier and really load it up. I also have a Bul-Pac and for big loads of meat nothing beats that. You can put the 3500 bag on the Bul-Pac as well. If you are going to be using your rig for hunting and packing out meat I would advise going with a quality hunting specific pack, if they didn't work better then nobody would be making and selling them.
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Re: Experience backpack hunters
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2017, 05:31:00 PM »
I have had a similar experience as SteveO and learned my lesson. His list in order of preference is dead on. I'm the kind of person that likes to spend money well one time and after my bad experience with a borrowed ill suited pack I went with EXO 3500. Cinch straps will pull it down to the size of a 2200 daypack when you don't need to carry a lot. You can carry meat between the bag and frame or drop the bag and add the crib carrier and really load it up. I also have a Bul-Pac and for big loads of meat nothing beats that. You can put the 3500 bag on the Bul-Pac as well. If you are going to be using your rig for hunting and packing out meat I would advise going with a quality hunting specific pack, if they didn't work better then nobody would be making and selling them.
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