Need help with my form! part 2 (new video)

[Arrow4Christ]

Well, I've been working a lot on my form and trying different shooting methods and I think I've found what works best for me. Basically, my form is a copy of Roger Rothhaar's off MBB. I am shooting well and enjoying it. As you can see, the arm is pretty darn steady and any movement you see is a result of the string being released and the tension being released. I would hold longer but see no reason to, as I have everything in line and ready to roll at this point. Just to show you the difference in one week, I'm posting my previous video.
 

Thanks for all the help everyone, I appreciate it!!!

[Guru]

Much better Craig, you've mad huge improvements!

By hitting the pause/play buttons fast you can get great stop action,almost frame by frame and it looks good.

Now you have to groove it in so it becomes second nature  

[Big'n]

Looks good except for one thing. It might just be me but it looks like you pulled your head up and away from your string prematurely on the second shot. This could cause you problems. Try to keep your head still until the shot hits the target. Someone in the MBB DVD called this "Peeking". Don't feel bad though, I've been working on this also. The funny thing is. I don't do it until I get out to long range(25yrds or better). Trust me it really makes a difference then. I can certainly see yopur improvement though. Keep up the good work!!   Dave

[JC]

Certainly improving...and glad to hear you are seeing the results on target.

In the second video, your bow arm is still dropping away early. I would suggest concentrating on not moving from your form until at least a count of 3 after the arrow hits. Enough practice at keeping your form after release and it will become second nature...and it will help.

Notice I said "keep" your form, not necessarily "hold your bow arm on target." I beleive trying to hold the arm on target is counter productive, instead of pushing/reaching the bow arm/shoulder on target which is the best way for me to describe it. Keep that bow arm stretching/reaching to the target after the shot and look at where your bow arm ends up in relation to the arrow's impact. You will easily see a correlation between your follow through and it's effect on where the arrow ends up.

Big'n, I think it often doesn't happen at longer ranges because 1) you know it takes longer for the arrow to get there so you are "waiting" longer to move the bow and 2) you are really concentrating on follow through because your mind is saying "This is a long shot, do everything right." Funny part is, it takes just as much cencentration and follow through to hit a target of the same scale at 5 or 50 yards.

[Terry Green]

From what I understand, the 2nd video here on this thread was the one that we critiqued on the other thread.  

Much better, but I am going to add one thing ....you have the string coming back and your head coming down at the same time....and there could be some timing issues arise from that.

I'd like to see your head set where it is when you shoot....only set it there before you draw and bring the string to you and your anchor.  That's what I would tell myself if that was my video.

[BobCo 1965]

Good work, much inprovement!

[JC]

Ahhhhh, I see the second is your previous one....that makes sense. It would help if I could read!    

Yes, much improved from the second one to the first. I would agree with Terry, you seem to be moving your head to your anchor instead of the other way around.  I would also offer that it looks like you may be locking your elbow of the bow arm, if so try just short of lock.

[Arrow4Christ]

Here's the new video, just got in from shooting it.
 
and here's a 20 yard shot and where my arrows usually end up  

[Terry Green]

If you look at the 1st video you did facing the camera.......and this one......there's a world of positive difference.

I think you need to continue to shoot and practice on the bale/target burning in your form ...you will fine tune it even further and start to gain confidence.

If something all of the sudden don't feel right...video again and get back on track.

This is the finest example of why people should video themselves in these two clips.

[JC]

Muuuuuuch better! And your arrows results prove it! Two tiny things you can see if you play the video and hit play/pause quickly to get the stop motion effect: you are still bringing your head down to your anchor just a bit right at the end of the draw, rather than your head staying still and your anchor coming to it. 2nd, though your release looks like great follow through, you may be collapsing down and away...it looks like you are losing back tension on the follow through. With the style you have developed, your release hand should end up somewhere around your shoulder, straight back, instead of down and away. See Rod Jenkin's video for the perfect example of where this style release should end up.

Keep up the good work!

[BobCo 1965]

I hope your passion never dies!!!

Good work.

[Arrow4Christ]

Wow guys, I just want to thank you. This site has been the most help to me of any of the sites I posted on and I am grateful for that. It is such an AWESOME feeling to come out of a long period of inconsistent form and shot placement...my arrows were all over the place (regularly MISSED the entire deer target)! but now, I'm guessing the majority of my arrows are within 1-2inches of the spot I'm aiming at, with many being dead on! Other than Roger Rothhaar's segment on MBB, this site has given me the most help towards consistent form and my goal. I have the Lord to praise and you guys and Rothhaar to thank for this. THANK YOU!

[Terry Green]

Cool.......now you gotta keep practicing to burn it in young man.

[Faith In Flight]

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