Hitting just high and right ?

[8up]

I got a new target yesterday as a present its the Block 4x4. After shooting 50 shots yesterday and another 50 today I have noticed a pattern. More shots hit just high of the 4" bull and on the right. As in this crude drawing. Is this and arrow problem? Weak or stiff spine? I shoot left handed. Or is this more likely something I am doing wrong?  Thank you

 

[Woodduck]

Here are some links to help, that I keep bookmarked:

    http://skookumarchers.com/Archery%20Library/Arrow%20Grouping.htm  

   http://skookumarchers.com/Archery%20Library/ArrowMisses1.htm

  http://skookumarchers.com/Archery%20Library/ArrowMisses2.htm

Hope they  help.
I'm sure you will allow for the fact they were written for right handed archers.

Also, it could have been the same arrow or arrows impacting there. Some folks  number their arrows and put the number on a drawing like yours; that corresponds with the number on the arrow.

[8up]

Woodduck thank you for the links

Now all these pages are set up for Right handed shooters SO if the following is true for Right handed shooters

Arrow Missing to the Right Caused By:

Bow Hand placed further left on grip, causing torque in bow
Bending wrist outwards, moves bow to the right on release
Tilting top limb to the left
Moving to the right on release
Drawing Hand plucking the bowstring
String alignment further left than usual
Shooting through clicker
Body twisting to the right on release

 Arrow Missing to the Left Caused By:

Bow Hand placed further right on grip, causing torque in bow
Wrist bent inwards, moves bow to the left on release
Tilting top limb to the right
Moving to the left on release
Bow Arm over-extended or locked
Bow Shoulder pointed to the left
Drawing Hand plucking the bowstring on release
String alignment further right than usual
Snap shooting, not at full draw and anchored prior to release
Leaning body backwards
Bowstring hitting loose clothing on release
Loss of back tension on release

Than would this be correct for Left handed shooters? I switched where is said "Right" to "Left" and replaced the word "left" with "Right"

Arrow Missing to the Left Caused By:

Bow Hand placed further right on grip, causing torque in bow
Bending wrist outwards, moves bow to the Left on release
Tilting top limb to the right
Moving to the left on release
Drawing Hand plucking the bowstring
String alignment further right than usual
Shooting through clicker
Body twisting to the left on release

 Arrow Missing to the Right Caused By:

Bow Hand placed further left on grip, causing torque in bow
Wrist bent inwards, moves bow to the right on release
Tilting top limb to the left
Moving to the right on release
Bow Arm over-extended or locked
Bow Shoulder pointed to the right
Drawing Hand plucking the bowstring on release
String alignment further left than usual
Snap shooting, not at full draw and anchored prior to release
Leaning body backwards
Bowstring hitting loose clothing on release
Loss of back tension on release

[katman]

Great links Woodchuck, thanks for posting. Looks like a sticky in the making.

[McDave]

Woodchuck's links are great, and I saved them for my own later reference.

Just want to be sure you're asking the right question, 8up.  If you're shooting your arrows into tight groups fairly consistently, but either the groups are high right, or the occasional arrow is going high right, then you're asking the right question.

On the other hand, if your arrows are going all over the target, but after you shoot a lot of arrows, most of the holes seem to be high right, then I think your question should be: why are my arrows not grouping?

To look for reasons why an arrow might go high right before you can consistenly shoot groups is like reaching for the fine sandpaper before you're done with the drawknife when you're making a bow.

To consistently shoot groups, you first have to make sure your equipment is capable of shooting groups: Is the bow well made and are the limbs straight and not torqued?  Are the arrows tuned to the bow?  Is the bow the right weight such that you can hold it steady at full draw?

Secondly, you have to have to learn the fundamentals of good form, which involve holding the bow correctly, your own posture and breathing, drawing and releasing, and follow through.

Then you have to shoot enough arrows with good form until they begin to group for you.  "Enough" could vary from one arrow, if you are a natural, to thousands of arrows, if you're like me.

When you can shoot 6" groups at 15-20 yards most of the time, then it's time to fine tune.

Please don't be offended, as I'm not saying you can't already do that; I just don't know if you can from looking at your target.

[8up]

McDave, I was to the point where I was keeping 7 of 10 in a 6" circle on average. Bare shafts were grouping with fletched. I have been playing with my brace height the last couple of days which may be part of my problem. I also seem to be getting some pain in my middle finger so maybe I am plucking the string? Not sure what that means exactly or how to stop it, just know I have read it can cause finger pain.

[McDave]

You seem to be on the right track, 8up.  If you're grouping 7/10, I don't think you're plucking the string.  When I pluck the string, it's pretty obvious to me.  Rather than the release being somewhat of a surprise, so that I wonder if I knew about it before or after it happened, and finding my string hand on my face afterwards, there is a rather obvious plucking sensation, and my string hand usually ends up somewhere in the air.  And, I usually don't hit what I'm shooting at.

If you're worried about your release, you might look into the push release  http://www.pushrelease.com/  I found out about it on this forum, and think it's one of the neatest, easy to learn things I've ever found out about in archery.

[dan ferguson]

weaken the arrow, might try heavier points, or might try lowering brace height just alittle at a time, your grouping looks consistent so I think that rules out form, I,m asuming 20 yds or so, just my opion, fergi