Bareshaft always nock high

[Steve O]

Helping some friends get ready for hunting season...

Last night, we worked on a Habu recurve.

I have got the left and right all squared away.

I cannot get nock high out of his arrows.  I have started way high and brought it down a little at a time.  At no time can I ever get nock low...we get just a little nock high, then the next adjustment down will give us way nock high from hitting the shelf and kicking up.

We are going to see if it does the same thing on his Predator tonight, but I wanted to see if any of you have seen this before.

BTW, at the same time, we got perfect arrow flight with a differt buddy and Habu recurve.

[vermonster13]

How high is way high?

[Eric Krewson]

I always have a little nock high when I bare shaft arrows, don't pay any attention to it, right and left is what I am watching.

Back when I shot a Bighorn and aluminum arrows I had the same nock high bare shaft but perfectly centered right-left. With the same arrow fletched I could shoot a perfect bullet hole through paper at about 6ft.

[Steve O]

Vermontster...it will go from about 1-2" high to 4-5" high with a move of 1/8" down.  You can definitely see the difference.

Eric...thanks

I was also thinking we would make sure the nocks are not too tight tonight.

He did shoot mixed groups at 20 yards and the bare/fletched shafts were grouping together.  Haven't tried broadheads yet.  This is a big step for him though; he is one of those guys that has a mishmass of arrows in his quiver--but darn it, he always shoots so good!

[vermonster13]

I meant how high did you set the nock point?

[Gator1]

Bareshafting question:

I know there a couple of methods...

Shooting and grouping bare shafts along with fletched shafts (O.L.) method.

I was just tuning a bare shaft, and watching for entry into the target.... Is one way better or the other????  

Interesting I got a new bow a couple weeks back, and the bareshafts 2016's fly kick to the left..

5 1/2 Fletch they fly fine????

Should I give up on the 2016's ???

[Bowmania]

You probably won't ever get a low reading.  What happens with a too low NP is the rear end of the shaft hits the shelf and kicks it up, making it appear too high.

Two things.  My NP is 7/8's high and I can't get the bare shaft to fly, but the feathered shaft is perfect.  So your not high enough.

I talked to Ken Beck about this at Compton.  His suggestion was to put a nocking point above and below the arrow.  If this works please PM me as I haven't tried it, because I'm leaving on a hunt in 2 weeks and didn't want to change anything.

Thanks,

Todd

[Guss]

I had the same problem with my Dad's setup. Is he shooting 3 under? If so, try a second nocking point. Too much pressure on the nock.  Jr.

[Molson]

A half inch high on the bareshaft is nothing at all to worry about.  Sounds like your set.  Fletch em up.

[whitebuffalo]

Are you using a brass nock,,try Tying one on with extra serving material to do the final small adjustments,,I run into the same thing sometimes and it always seem to be just the slightest adjustment that will get it right,,Just my two cents buddy,,hope it all works out for ya,JB

[Steve O]

Thanks for all the ideas gents...we will give them a go tonight.  I've not run into this before with my bows; I can normally get them closer than this Habu.

[Molson]

Steve-  One other thing to check is that the arrow is not contacting the shelf forward of the deepest part of the grip.  I have one here that I had to build up the shelf at the deepest part of the grip and then reset the nock accordingly.  Took care of the problem.

[Tilzbow]

Good suggestions so far especially regarding putting the second nock set under the arrow to keep it from sliding down the string at full draw. If you shoot split finger you could be putting pressure on the arrow with your index finger and causing it to slide down the string on some shots.

A consistent nock high (or nock low) could also be an indication that the limbs aren't tillered correctly for the shooter's style and the bottom limb is stronger and thus faster. Try putting a limb tip protector or wrapping electrical tape on the bottom limb to slow it down a little. After fighting the same problem and finally giving up and calling the bowyer to discuss he suggested I try this and it worked for me this year.

[Steve O]

Welllllll,

I can't fix it for him, but I can shoot his LH bow and get a level nock, so I think he is torquing something somewhere.  Thanks for all the ideas.

[Steve O]

Guys,

He is all set.  The nock high is not hurting anything when we put feathers on.  He was jumping around like a schoolgirl last night when we were shooting...never has seen his arrows flying straight    .  Broadheads are good too.

[Smallwood]

1 to 2" high is very acceptable. what's happening is your starting nock high and moving is down to where it's 1-2" and when you move it lower, it's actually too low, but the arrow bumps off the arrow shelf causing the 4-5" nock high reading.