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Author Topic: Arrow Penetration-?  (Read 563 times)

Offline Fletcher

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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2007, 08:17:00 PM »
Another thing to consider is that you have made quartering away shots.  While this is a great shot to take, there is a lot of deer to shoot thru, almost like shooting thru two broadside.  Some more arrow/point weight should help if you can get it without sacrificing quality arrow flight, but I think you are doing just fine.

Regarding Mulberry River's post, the new Zwickey "No Mercy" heads are sharpened on both sides just like the other Zwickeys.  Nice head, but narrow for my tastes.
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2007, 08:22:00 PM »
First off, never shoot a broadhead tipped arrow without fletching. It is very dangerous and makes absolutely no sense, since the blades are trying to steer the arrow as well as the fletching. I personally don't believe the myth of the one sided sharpened head. I can personally sharpen a Zwickey or Simmons with a Lansky sharpening kit with a 25 degree angle and put a mirror sharp edge on it that wont grab like the later. There is no way anyone can sharpen a Grizzly that sharp just sharpening one side. Is your draw that short or is it 27" and your short drawing/snap shooting to 25"? If so you may be shortening it even more when in a stressful situation or tree stand shot where you will shoot shorter when shooting downward angle. JMO
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2007, 08:35:00 PM »
FOC means Front of Center and refers to the weight in front of the center point of the shaft.
And SlowBow is right...DO NOT bare shaft with a BH!

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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2007, 09:12:00 PM »
O.K
I got the FOC but I set up my arrow with the 50-g brass insert and tried the 100-g brass insert but the 100-g did not shoot well at all, am I doing something wrong.I tried the arrow at 26 26.5 27 27.5 100-g and 50-g insert 125 broadhead. Thanks for the information on FOC
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2007, 09:19:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Snakeeater:
Did you bare shaft tune with a broadhead on the shaft? If not, then they may not be flying straight like they did with the field point. I would shoot some with broadheads on into a target and see if they are hitting perpendicular or at an angle. Any angle will rob you of energy and penetration.
I don't think I've ever shot broadheads without fletching. I've shot broadheads with my feathers very wet to simulate rain, but never bare shafted. Is that safe?

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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2007, 09:32:00 PM »
You will need to increase your spine. By adding the weight you weekened the spine and will need to go to the next size up. Did you shoot a bare shaft? With the new inserts you will need to start over with your tuning.
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2007, 09:33:00 PM »
wow I just drew my bow to answer the question asked is your draw that short. 24" holding arm to eye tooth.
I know when checking my draw when developing my shooting style I was shooting 25.5 " do I need to go back to the drawing bord.
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2007, 09:34:00 PM »

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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2007, 09:46:00 PM »
It will really shorten up if you are in a stand bent over to make a shot. When you are in the yard and practicing at leisure you will tend to be more relaxed and pay more attention to your form where in the stand your more concerned with getting a shot and not getting seen. I would start my tuning over from scratch. Your 3555's should still work though.
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2007, 10:41:00 PM »
:scared:  NEVER BARE SHAFT BROADHEADS  :scared:  
They will wind plane and you don't know where they will go.
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2007, 05:55:00 AM »
O.K this is what I am going to try.I will post some video of my form on the shooters forum to start.We then can see if the tee factor is there properly and if any thing can help in that dirrection. Then I can try some of the magnus tips and see if they help with the problem .I also do not think it is a tuning issue but I will rethink all I have done I can shorten my arrow at the draw I'M at now 2" will this give me what I'M looking for if I can tune in the 100-g insert with 125-g tip for FOC.
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2007, 10:02:00 AM »
I have to agree with most on here, ya have to get perfect arrow flight or darn close. If your arrow is wobbling on tthe way you will not get as good of penetration as you should. Shawn
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2007, 12:32:00 PM »
There is no wobbling as far as I know. I had a rep for Lancaster archery standing behind me looking for that very thing with the bare shafts and fletched. I would like to work on the FOC fine tune of my arrow and see what I can do with that. ? I am 5'9" does 25.5" draw seem short.
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2007, 02:29:00 PM »
Do not bare shaft with a  broadhead. Very dangerous!!!
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Re: Arrow Penetration-?
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2007, 06:14:00 PM »
I am 5,9" too and pull 28-28.25". That seems short to me. Make sure your not bringing you head foward to hit anchor. I anchor with my middle finger in the corner of my mouth.
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