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Offline laddy

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #80 on: March 11, 2008, 11:33:00 PM »
Thumb up, thumb down behind the jaw for some, but I would say what ever, looks good, have fun.  Nice bow.

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #81 on: March 11, 2008, 11:43:00 PM »
wait.....so is that like a kudos or what?

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #82 on: March 12, 2008, 12:24:00 AM »
hold on i think this is a bit better
 

man i really need to learn that double anchor thing, cant seem to long my position once at full draw

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #83 on: March 12, 2008, 03:20:00 AM »
Sorry, I was listening to the Alex Jones show.  Some people feel it is important to be able to lock up an anchor point.  I have seen some remarkable shooters who do not.  Hill said that some would better with a heavy contact at anchor and others a light touch.  Taking him at his word, he obviously thinks what ever works for the individual is the right thing to do.  Personally I am lost without the double contact providing it is dynamic and has a back tensioned draw strength supporting it.  If I get to feeling that I am hanging on to the bow with the force of my anchor my arrow flight suffers.  For holding time? It is nice to be able to hold and it is nice to be able to shoot fast, both are desirable to help make an archer well rounded, but I would not worry to much about a set time to hold on a target.  It is also good to be able to draw very slowly and release instantly.  I see lots of good things in your basic abilities that are on your side. Especially your attitude. You do have a really nice bow, are you still shooting bare fingers? Ouch

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #84 on: March 12, 2008, 08:39:00 AM »
lol no uch, drop so many pounds it feels like im pulling on a lil kids bow!!
yea that glove didnt wrk so well for me so i gave it to my cousin,
and thanks for the bow compliment, Its such an amazing shooter as well!!

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #85 on: March 12, 2008, 02:29:00 PM »
I could imagine your fingers are getting toughened up by now. Just curious what glove did you try?  It probably felt thick and numb compared to the feel you are used to.  have you ever tried a tab or a glove without inserts?

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #86 on: March 12, 2008, 03:44:00 PM »
tabs were the first thing i used when i started archery, the glove was this damsacus leather glove,
idk i just need that feel of the string to be able to shoot the way i want to
i already have tough raw fingertips lol

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #87 on: March 12, 2008, 10:47:00 PM »
teeeeeerryyyyyy!!
where are ya when I need ya man?!?!
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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2008, 12:01:00 PM »
Get Stev Shultz Traditional glove in cowhide.draw your hand and select the length of stall .Some like alot of stall and some dont. I like 1 3/8" so tell them that. Its about the best design and feel youll get.End of finger problem .

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2008, 01:24:00 PM »
Did you mean steve schulz  john's oldest son?  I knew James was, American Leathers, making shooting gloves, but have not seen anything from Steve in years.

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #90 on: March 13, 2008, 01:35:00 PM »
You are arching your spine into a 'C' toward the target....and this is causing you to short draw.

Look at your vids and you will see what I mean...you are not benting at the waist with proper alignment......let me see if I can find that pic I used earlier....
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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #91 on: March 13, 2008, 01:48:00 PM »
This is the verticle aligment you want to strive for...and to shoot downward you simply bend at the waist and take this alighment with you.

 

You don't want to make a curve with your spine, or drop your bow arm to shoot downward.  This is how you look at full draw.

   

I think it would really help if you shot in the same place while standing, and putting the target at shoulder height. If possible.
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Offline Brian Krebs

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2008, 03:39:00 AM »
I am thinking that you should just make one shot on a video clip; and use your best form for it.
 It seems like your a bit concerned if there is enough time for the shots in the time allowed; and its effecting your shooting.
  In the photos Terry showed above; his bow hand is not gripping the bow straight up and down. The bow grip preasure is on the base of his thumb; not the palm of his hand.
  I personally shoot with my bow hand almost close to being horizonal to the ground; the bow rest against the base of my thumb for the most part.
   If I have a really heavy thick parka on; I need an arm guard; but under 98% of my shooting conditions or more- I don't need an arm guard.
  I am going to try to show some pictures of what I am talking about.
  I also shoot two fingers and anchor solid to my face; and touch my pointing finger to the corner of my mouth; which does not give you the same 'sight picture' that three fingers under does.
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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2008, 04:04:00 AM »
This is how I normally grip the bow; if you notice; the string is a good distance from my arm; thus the lack of need for an arm guard.
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This is grasping the entire grip; and not resting the bow on the base of my thumb. In this form; I would need an arm guard.

 
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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2008, 04:20:00 AM »
If you want to see the bow grip I use- from the front; I saw the same thing by clicking on Tradtuskers ( #8659) name. It shows the same hold I use on the bow. Not sure how (or if) I should link that to here...
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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #95 on: March 15, 2008, 08:48:00 PM »
SO HOW WOULD YOU SAY i AM GRIPPING MY BOW?

would it be the same as the first or second pic?

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Re: 18 yards practice vid( my form update)
« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2008, 02:25:00 AM »
Look at the picture you posted on feb 22 5:58. looks like your more like the second picture I posted. If you look on the main page; the Bob Lee advertisement; you can see a similiar grip; and in the picture of the child in the upper left corner of this page.
 Nothing wrong with it; its just the more the bow just sits in the hand; the less torque or other negative influence- your bowhand will have on the bow.
  When I bowhunt I normally wear a jacket; and I don't get any string slap on it.
  I don't know if your out to kill a deer; or if your into target archery- my habits come from a lifetime of hunting.
 So; when I practice I will kneel like I have seen you do shooting; and as well stand with my feet tight together; as I often hunt out of a treestand.
  So far your shooting well enough at targets to be shooting at animals.
  When I practice; I am in my head seeing a deer or elk or bear and visualizing that; and also I practice to be drawing the bow while being watched by other deer etc.
  When I practice - like today; there were elk 300 yards away all over the hillside. So I will pick an elk out; and then shoot at a spot (ussually a can or clay pigeon) within range; and if I miss say left; and the elk in the background is facing left; I know that might have been a bad shot on the elk.
  I also shoot balloons; and have night shoots at candles. At night your concentration has to be on the target- the flame- and your form has to be pretty consistant.
  I am 57 though; and too young to start shooting really seriously.
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