Author Topic: Critique my form...(NEW VID PG. 3) (Read 2996 times)

Terry Green · « **Reply #20 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:02:00 AM »

Sent you an email.....

Terry Green · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:06:00 AM »

Just caught your post JAG...who's the fellow?

LONGBOWKID · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:09:00 PM »

Well, Bradd, we all know I could never possibly achieve your status of "expert archer", but thank you for your comment.

I dont think my bow hand is tight, It's quite relaxed actually. I know I dont have a consistent anchor or proper back tension, but I disagree that I'm just "flingin arras"

Thanks again for your contribution.

Terry: I think that would be Sterling Holbrook he's speaking of...

The Kid

Guru · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:34:00 PM »

Bradd, Obviously you have some issues dude...when you start with "not to be nasty" and end with "good attempt at flingin' arras though"....

I'll be blunt here.....comments like that aren't welcome here, and neither will you be if you keep it up.

We have a young archer here looking for help, and that's what you contribute. Please refrain from any further comment if you can't contribute in a positive way..........

Howattman · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:46:00 PM »

Bradd (aka Canadian Mohawk) has recently started to take himself WAY too seriously and now thinks 1) only he and a few others know anything about archery, and 2) everyone who disagrees with him is out to get him.

Sorry for the interuption, LongbowKid. Have you ever tried a clicker? Not one of the shoot-through models, but one that goes on the upper limb of your bow and is attached to your bowstring with a string. I think it would really help you in anchoring and pulling through your shot. Might be worth a try.

Str8Shooter · « **Reply #25 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:45:00 AM »

I watched your video a couple more times. On the whole your form looks pretty solid. I think the biggest thing is just getting a good, solid line.

Without watching you in person I can only suggest a couple things I've seen or worked through myself. First, does it feel like you are pulling with you arm or with the back muscles? I've seen a few guys, who are very strong, capable of just using the bicep to pull the string. If you can do this the muscle contracting in your bicep will make it difficult to bring the elbow in line with the arrow. Even with the proper anchor point it will prevent you from getting that last little bit of extension. If you are you just need to learn to relax the muscles in the arm and transfer to the back. Alot of the tension in the arms can be negated simply be relaxing the fingers and forearm and the rest of the arm will follow suit.

If you aren't doing this you may just need to adjust your anchor a little. I learned a tip to help select your natural anchor point. Simply stand, extend both arms out at shoulder height, turn your head (like your looking at a target), and bend your draw arm at the elbow until the hand contacts the face. This generally works out to the point where your body wants to anchor naturally. It may be further back than what you currently use or maybe forward. Try it and see. I've shown this to lots of people and it usually works out really well. Keep in mind, you may have to adjust it slightly to keep the arrow centered under your dominant eye.

Mike brings up a good point, as well. A clicker can be a very valuable tool in encouraging good form and working on improving yourself. I haven't used on much but I know a couple excellent shots who do. If you are interested in this try to find someone who can help you set it up properly or maybe pick up a video showing its use. I believe that Scott Antczak has a video that shows the proper set up and usage of one.

Longbowkid, your doing good. Keep after it and don't be afraid to post more videos.

Good shooting.

Chris

sdpeb1 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 21, 2009, 02:51:00 AM »

It's nice to see all that are helping out a new shooter. I too have concerns that I am struggling with back tension. I do try to relax wrist and arm and engage back tension. I get full draw at 29in. I bought a form master(rigid) to futher ingrain an develop BT. What's your thoughts on that for a training aid? Also wouldn't it be nice to have a permanent posting of examples of shooting angles when we post up a "hows my form" question. thanks,Steve

SHOOTO8S · « **Reply #27 on:** January 21, 2009, 06:47:00 AM »

Per Guru's earlier post, Trad Gang won't be host to a continuation of the verbal battles seen on other sites lately...not happening here.

Guru · « **Reply #28 on:** January 21, 2009, 06:42:00 PM »

Bradd, Com'on dude, this isn't about me and you, this all about how the good people of TG get treated.

So again, I'll offer this "advice" to you....if you want to help,then offer advice...but lose the sarcasm.....if not, go elsewhere,if you haven't burned those bridges already.....

SHOOTO8S · « **Reply #29 on:** January 22, 2009, 08:24:00 AM »

Longbowkid, yeah the vids are hard to see, but based on what I could see, I'd suggest lots of no fire drills, with a friend watching to checking at what point the drawing elbow aligns with the arrow point..once your find your point of alignment, work on finding a solid and repeatable anchor, then begin actually shooting the bow...yeah I know its boring to not actually shot the arrow, but no fire drills are very helpful in correcting priorities.

Most of us first pickup a bow and our only priority is to hit a target, without much attension to form and shot sequence...problem is at some point if we stay involved, we reach a point of no improvement and decide to understand and improve form and shot sequence...now the big problem....our priority hasn't changed, but we have years of ingrained subconscious stuff battling with the changes to form were trying to work out!Exchanging priorities of " I wanna hit something" to " I wanna have perfect alignment", "I wanna solid and repeatable anchor" may take some time away from trying to hit stuff.

Molson · « **Reply #30 on:** January 22, 2009, 08:18:00 PM »

All good advice above and I'd say they've identified your problem. I highly recommend you follow what Rod suggests above and get your alignment corrected. Trust me, I shot really good without taking the time to correct a similar problem for years and it will eventually catch up with you. Then you'll be working about four times as hard to correct it.

You mentioned you can't anchor tight because the string slaps your face. When you are using proper back tension, that won't happen so that's a good way of knowing when your alignment is on.

LONGBOWKID · « **Reply #31 on:** January 22, 2009, 10:06:00 PM »

Ok fellas, I finally went at it today and got a fair amount of video, and did some editing so yall dont have to watch 30 clips.

I think my problems are going away, I'm usually getting a nice anchor, and I am pausing, which I almost never do.

I shot pretty well today, and was quite enthused. I used all the advice given, here's what I came up with. Occasionally the anchor point drifts or comes up short, but thats part of training for it to go away.

Maybe this will allow yall to give me more precise and accurate answers. But from the info given, I believe yall have done quite the job already...

Thanks again,

The Kid...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50912705

Bear Heart · « **Reply #32 on:** January 22, 2009, 10:40:00 PM »

I would say slow it down even a little more to ingrain that good anchor. This is what I love to see. Those who are willing to battle their deficiencies. That not only brings great shooting but builds character. Keep it up.

LONGBOWKID · « **Reply #33 on:** January 22, 2009, 10:42:00 PM »

I agree Bear Heart. Pausing at all is a great acomplishment for this ex snap shooter!

Take care.

The Kid

Howattman · « **Reply #34 on:** January 22, 2009, 11:53:00 PM »

That looks a lot better, LBK! Keep at it, looks like you're making good progress. Just keep mentally reminding yourself to hit that anchor point!

Mike

« **Reply #35 on:** January 24, 2009, 09:10:00 AM »

LBK,

I’m not a great shot, and perhaps not even a good one, so take what I say here for what it’s worth—probably not much.

Your first shot in the new video is good—real good. You shoulder height and alignment look good. During your second shot you crept before releasing. After that I notice that you’re beginning to collapse, shooting quicker, and not getting to full draw. (I see a lot of myself in your form).

I’d like for you to try something and report back. Face your mark, come to full draw, extend your back tension while making sure you have a solid anchor, hold for about 3 seconds, then ‘slowly’ let down—don’t shoot. Do that about five times or so.

Guru · « **Reply #36 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:25:00 PM »

Good advice Jim....and I saw the same as you...

champ38 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 09, 2009, 12:16:00 AM »

Terry Green · « **Reply #38 on:** February 11, 2009, 08:21:00 PM »

I saw exactly what Jim saw....but a big improvement for sure...just nail down that alignment and anchor like in that 1st shot.

Terry

bayoulongbowman · « **Reply #39 on:** February 28, 2009, 03:14:00 PM »

I know ya shot for the camera and all , but when its just you ...do some close pale work , slow down and concentrate with just one arrow...good practice , perfect practice ...And you will be the archer you want to be...work at it ...nice improvement!Best luck bud...marco#78

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