I just recently bought and watched the new DVD. Wow! Lots of great info! After watching Denny's segment, I decided I would spend a little time experimenting on the blank bale. After playing around with my grip and finger position, I found a better variation on my grip and deeper hook. Both provided better groups and a more relaxed feeling shot. Thanks guys for all your hard work and great info. It's really opened up my eyes that fine tuning your own personal shot sequence is an ongoing process. I finally understand the importance of the blank bale.