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Offline nightowl1

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anchor point vs draw length
« on: August 16, 2009, 09:41:00 PM »
If this is in the wrong forum please move it...

Has anyone noticed if a specific anchor point yields a greater and more consistent draw length?
I am asking this from a anatomical standpoint.

It very well may be that due to variance and anatomical structure different positions yield different clearances for the shoulders. I have noticed that the higher i move my anchor point the shorter my drawlength becomes...I am an exercise physiologist and understand muscle structure, balance, and length vs. strength issues, so my question is...

Can a lower anchor point ALLOW(key word) for a greater draw length or what is your experience.

Please focus on the last statement
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Offline George D. Stout

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »
A higher anchor can stop against the front of the cheek bone, and that can cause a shorter draw than one that slides under the cheek bone.  

I anchor with the top of my drawing hand against the bottom of my cheek bone, and use a dynamic release...I don't stop pulling with my back muscles through the loose.  During my anchor/release I touch the corner of my mouth with my index finger.  My shoulders are pulling together through the release, and you can feel that during followthrough.

If I used a higher anchor, it may stop my draw as I contact the front part of the cheek bone.  That's my story and I'm stick.....in to it 8^).

Offline buckeye_hunter

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2009, 08:16:00 AM »
I double anchor and it seems to have consistently lengthened my draw. I was drawing 27 and a half now I'm over 28. I anchor on the back of my cheek bone and "tuck" my thumb under the back of my jawbone. That way I have two reference points and it feels very comfortable.

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 09:52:00 AM »
it may allow for more leverage or more efficient use of your back muscles (more in line of the draw - not a high elbow), hence expanding the chest and making a longer draw.....
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Offline GMMAT

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 11:13:00 AM »
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Has anyone noticed if a specific anchor point yields a greater and more consistent draw length?
 
Simly put, Yes.  It would seem to HAVE to.

I've always anchored with my middle finger in the corner of my mouth.  I noticed that I would sometimes "stretch" the corner of my mouth to get more draw (watched on film).  So I started using the cock feather on the end of my nose as another anchor point reference.  End of issue.

Offline longbowben

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 12:08:00 PM »
I anchor to my cheek bone no short draw just a exact anchor.To each his own.It works for me.
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Offline nightowl1

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 05:31:00 PM »
Thanks for the comments guys, after doing some measuring, mirrow work, and anatomy review... I have gained some insight.

And it is right along with what mr. BobW says

by lowering your anchor point it allows for a more efficient use of muscles used. This means a longer draw with less energy/contraction of muscles used.

I just gained one inch in draw length by switching... that just added alot more force to my arrow with very little work. I may expirement more and see if i can squeeze out another somehow... but i'm not that tall or long of a guy and 28" is pretty good for me.

BTW optimal draw length would come from drawing the hand across the chest, but this would be an almost impractical position, so from there on its all based on comfort which means no one anchor is better than the other... just wanted to make that clear
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Offline GMMAT

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 05:34:00 PM »
Gaining an inch in DL would most likely affect arrow tune.

I'd check it.

Offline nightowl1

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2009, 06:27:00 PM »
i am, thanks for the concern...(my tune wasn't that great to begin with)
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Offline Scott F

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »
My last molar on my upper jaw sticks out slightly and is "my" perfect anchor point.  I shoot 3 under and my index finger stops right on the gap between these two teeth.  Fortunately for me this places the arrow directly under my eye.  I've anchored like this for a couple years now and it has increased my drawlength significantly and consistently.

I tried a bunch of different reference points on my face but none of them felt comfortable until I watched Rod Jenkins shooting video and decided to try an anchor point other than the customary 'corner of the mouth' -- I'll never even consider going back and I wish that I'd have discovered this sooner.

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Offline kevin yacuzzo

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Re: anchor point vs draw length
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 09:45:00 PM »
I find with my longbow an anchor of the index finger to the corner of the mouth creates a longer draw, keeps the elbow lower inline with the longbow grip and a better release. Takes some getting use to and would not be suitable for the recurve.

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