Welsh. does it work?

[wds]

About a mounth ago i pinched a nerve in my neck. For a while thought i would never shoot a curve again. m.r.i. came back better than expeceted and i am getting better. Took my light 3d bow out this morning to see if i could shoot or not. shoot 20 arrows. Shot 4 five shoot groups then quit to see what effect this might have on my neck. Neck is ok so far but here is the thing.I started trying to learn the things Rick Welch is teaching about a year ago or so. it wasent easy and it diden't come fast but piece buy piece i got it. So after not touching a bow for at least a mounth the last five arrows i shot at thirty yards were spot on in a group i pulled with one hand. If your shooting is not what you would like it to be try what Rick is teaching. Its the real deal for me. Could be for you to. Happy holidays all.

[zetabow]

I think any method will work as long as it follows certain basic form rules like good alingment, repeatable anchor, timing and proper back tension and most important consistent.

Ricky's is just one of many shooting methods that work well for many Archers, if it's working for you and you're enjoying, go with it.

The goal of shooting for me is to be the best I can be, I'm happy with my form and shot sequence but I never stop trying to improve the consistency of my form.

The key to good shooting is find a proven method and develop it to a point where it feels natural and comfortable, this is what makes Ricky the man he is.

[waiting4fall]

Here's what some folks feel about this topic.


Rick,
 
I wanted to drop you a note thanking you for sharing your shooting knowledge in the accuracy factory video. It has been an incredible experience for me learning your system. Over the last several years I have been nearly to the point of giving up. My problems began about ten years ago with a shoulder injury that led to all kinds of lousy shooting habits and eventually target panic since I couldn't shoot worth a hoot. I tried everything with no significant results.
 
Your system has put the fun back into shooting for me and my confidence is at an all time high. Almost immediately after going to three fingers under and using your anchoring recommendations, my shooting progressed with leaps and bounds.
 
 I have shot a doe and decent buck here in Illinois so far this year. In the past I could not ethically shoot past 15 yards. After shooting the buck this past weekend I realized I never hesitated and or worried about the shot as in the past. I have been gradually increasing my shooting distances and now can confidently shoot to 30 yards, and I intend to continue training my brain to shoot farther.
 
Thanks
 
Tom

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Hi Rick;

I hope all is well with you and your family. I just wanted to thank you again for your shooting school. I can't tell you how much it means to me to be able to shoot and hit EXACTLY where I'm looking!! You have given me back the fun in shooting a bow and that is priceless to me. I'm looking forward to getting my new bow from you and to continue improving my abilities. I have told many people about your class and how it has helped me so much. My shooting has improved dramatically even since I've been home from the class.
Best of Luck hunting this fall!

Dr. Bob

[MattR]

I'm interested in Ricks system, I am a trad archer from the UK, having shot both target and field, the judging distance element is of particular interest (intrigued by your "How far is that? Don't know, don't care." as I have always had problems judging distance exactly.
I have a bow on order with him - the Dakota pro-hunter and ordered it based on what I saw and heard on both his site and various forums, I used to shoot a Pronghorn (as well as English longbow) however found the straight grip to hard over prolonged shoots. Just a shame his shooting school is about 5000 miles away!!!

[zetabow]

MattR

Shooting IBO where the average distance is around 20 yards the 'Dont know, dont care' attitude on distance estimation with a fast Recurve shooting 3 under is no comparison to shooting unmarked NFAS\\EFAA 3D when you have 40y,50y and 60y shots(some NFAS shots can be 80+ yards), trust me all the guys winning NFAS\\EFAA and IFAA are estimating the distance.

Even a 300fps Compound being out on his distance estimation by 5 yards would totally miss the 3D at 60 yards.

I'm no Ricky and you may prefer being coached by somebody with his reputation but I can offer you coaching to help you get on track and I'm a little closer than 5000 miles, I think Easyjet do flights for around £80. I also plan to be in Dover in Feb so I might have time to fling some arrows with you.

 www.targetsm.com/archerycoaching.htm

[rnharris]

[MattR]

Thanks Zetabow, tell me more about your Dover trip as this is only 9 miles away!

[zetabow]

My Mum lives in Ewell Minnis just outside Dover and plan to visit then.

[dragon rider]

"Welch, does it work?"  Hell yes. If you'll work at what he teaches it will work for you.

[MattR]

Zetabow,
Interesting, may sort something, I know that area well having until recently worked in Dover. I shoot NFAS 3D's at a private club near Canterbury and target at my local GNAS club. Always up for practise and refinement...

[brumski]

hi guys,waitin4fall, i know you are a graduate of ricks school, and a competant shooter!!. so can you tell us (using ricks method) at what distance does the "how far is that?, don't know don't care" go out to?? i've tried ricks anchor point and don't like it much, but  the rest of his advice is spot on!!, by the way, i love that video of your boy on you tube!! how's he getting on? and did you get your lil girl a bow yet??

brumski

[waiting4fall]

Originally posted by brumski:
hi guys,waitin4fall, i know you are a graduate of ricks school, and a competant shooter!!. so can you tell us (using ricks method) at what distance does the "how far is that?, don't know don't care" go out to?? i've tried ricks anchor point and don't like it much, but  the rest of his advice is spot on!!, by the way, i love that video of your boy on you tube!! how's he getting on? and did you get your lil girl a bow yet??

brumski

Thanks for the kind words. Just to clarify, a bit, I work with Rick. I redesigned the website, developed his youtube page, & was directly involved in every aspect of the new dvd. By the way, I've done all of this to help Rick better help anyone interested in his shooting routine. However, between 2 trips to Rick's house, for business, I managed to get a total of 8hrs of instruction with him.

 It can be 15 yds or 75 yds, it doesn't matter. One only needs to employ Rick's routine & dedicate themselves to becoming deadly accurate @ whatever max perceived distance one chooses.  

Emma will be 3 Jan 1. She has been shooting her own trad bow for 1 yr. Jordan is doing fine, & enjoys shooting his bow.

[zetabow]

I hear on the grapevine that Ricky may be going to IFAA World Field Champs in Germany next year, I hope he does, I will enjoy watching him shoot 70 & 80 yards. I understand from the Germans it's VERY challenging terrain so should be FUN.

MattR I'll send you a PM when I've booked flights to UK and see if we can arrange a arrow flinging session. :-)

[zetabow]

Waiting4Fall maybe you can explain Ricky's aiming in more detail because I've never seen an Instinctive Archer shoot marked distance consistently, specially out to 70 & 80 yards (Field rounds requires 4 shots per target).

My definition of Split is looking at target but aware of the arrow in relation to the target, it's not a visual thing where I have to see the arrow.  I did have to look when I first learnt Split-vision but as I became confident I put all my focus towards the spot I want to hit. Is this what Ricky's doing and we're just defining it with a different name????

[griz#1]

WORKS FOR ME.

[waiting4fall]

Originally posted by zetabow:
Waiting4Fall maybe you can explain Ricky's aiming in more detail because I've never seen an Instinctive Archer shoot marked distance consistently, specially out to 70 & 80 yards (Field rounds requires 4 shots per target).

My definition of Split is looking at target but aware of the arrow in relation to the target, it's not a visual thing where I have to see the arrow.  I did have to look when I first learnt Split-vision but as I became confident I put all my focus towards the spot I want to hit. Is this what Ricky's doing and we're just defining it with a different name????

I think the best person to describe this to you is Rick Welch himself. I just got off the phone with him to tell him of your genuine interest in his shooting method. As you are in another country a personal phone call probably isn't practical. However, he asked that I make sure that you have his email, which I'm doing now. Rick Welch, very much looks forward to your email, so that he can provide you the information you are looking for. All the very best.- Dave Mullins.

RICK WELCH'S EMAIL ADDRESS

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P.S. he's leaving for my house tomorrow morning, for the weekend. So if you email him after tonight his reply will be delayed for a few days.

[MattR]

Zetabow, thanks, this might work. I generally try & shoot instictively upto about about 40yds, anything greater is point of aim, however I will be changing bows soon so will have to re-adjust for new draw weight.
It is always fun when I shoot with the target club because all my friends shoot olympic recurve or compound bristling with sights, balances and gadgets, when they shoot my way they can't hit a barn door...little pleasures!!

[zetabow]

50 yards for me using my Instinct\\Split-vision method then I'm pure gap 55 yards to 100 yards (after that it's poke and hope lol)

I always shot Instinct/Split for NFAS then added Gap\\POA to shoot EFAA\\IFAA marked Field rounds, using a blend of all aiming styles has helped me shoot all types of rounds to a good standard, changing from unmarked 3D to marked Field is very straight forward for me.