Question for Rod Jenkins

[Lazy Ike]

Rod, I know that you are a proponent od skinny(10 strands or so) . I've read the whole thread that is linked on O L Addcocks page and I have a 10 strand and 8 strand D97 for my recurve. It seems to me that they are quieter than my 20 strand , but it seems as though the accuracy is less consistent. Have you done very much in the way of accuracy experimentation between high and low strand count? Like maybe 300 round averages...


Thanks,
Ike

[Lazy Ike]

Maybe this is the wrong forum for this??? Would Pow Wow be better. It's an accuracy question.


Ike

[foamkiller]

Would probably be best to PM or call Rod.

[Lazy Ike]

Thanks, I just thought he posted here a lot so I'd ask.If any body else has input....I'm all ears.


Thanks,
Ike

[SHOOTO8S]

I'm sorry...Ive been at hunting camp for a week and didn't have access to this forum.

I am a fan of whatever strand count that provides absolute stability...for me shooting in the warmer south that means 12 strands of 8125 is pretty much the minimum, and thats with lower poundage bows .Even though a consistent brace can be maintained with fewer strands, the string is highly stressed and when the bow is unstrung for traveling or whatever, that string contracts and when restrung brace is higher than desired and you can either chase brace height or simply shoot enough shots for brace to stabilize...which often you don't have time for.

As far as accuracy......I can't find any difference between a skinny string and a higher strand count( provided the bow is tuned,for each setup)....but consistent accuracy is best served by enough strands to provide stability in all situations.

[Lazy Ike]

Thanks Rod....Hope your hunt was enjoyable!! Was it deer camp or something else?

BTW I just watched MBB one two and three. I really enjoyed your segments!!! I've been working on the blank bale a good bit lately, and just today, for the first time, I could really feel back tension between my shoulder blades while at anchor. I'm going to try to take it to the bridge drill soon.

Thanks again for the sring info!!

Ike

[Larry Yien]

Originally posted by Lazy Ike:
...It seems to me that they are quieter than my 20 strand , but it seems as though the accuracy is less consistent. Have you done very much in the way of accuracy experimentation between high and low strand count? Like maybe 300 round averages...


Thanks,
Ike

Part of the beauty of making my own strings is being able to experiment.  A few years back when I noticed Ron LaClair sending his Shrews out with skinny strings, I decided to make some very thin strings of my own  4,6,and 8 strand strings. The "skinnys" seemed to work fine.  I shot them for a few months but then I stopped shooting them for a couple reasons.  

I was shooting with my friend who owned a Shrew and his string blew up upon release.  It was a bit disconcerting and it led me to question the yield strength of the thin strings.

I also noticed that my groups opened up when I shot skinny strings.  Like Rod I found that I prefer shooting a string count of 12 strands or more of Dynaflight 97, or 15 strands of 8125.  My current strings are 14 of D97 and 16 of 8125.

Lastly I shot a weekend tourney with one of the uppity ups at Easton on my target, he explained to me that they did extensive shooting tests with number of strands being the variable.  The bottom line was shoot as many strands as you can.  Fat strings with thin center serving was more accurate vs. skinny strings with fat center serving.

My take on the reduced noise is that a skinny string stretches more and absorbs energy yielding less noise vs. a thicker string that stretches less and yields more noise.  Furthermore a thinner string has more deviation due to its flex and results in bigger group size.

[Lazy Ike]

Thanks Larry. Your findings seem to confirm things that I have read over the last few months.I read a thread where an oly shooter said that for him dropping from a 16 to a 14 strand(sorry I don't remember what material) would open up his 70 meter groups by about 3 inches.

I also really enjoyed your segments on the MBB series. I watch the segments that you and Rod did over and over.I've been battling tp or a form of it for sometime now, but trying to build a repeatable shot sequence is helping. In the last few days, I've had a bit of a breakthru!! I'm really trying to use breathing and breath control to get final control of my shot.I took it outside to a target and was very pleased.

Thank you again for the input and for all the good info on the MBB series.

Ike