after reading Rob's post I should change all words above that say "anchor point" to "reference point" as that is really what they are since I don't stop drawing. That may also explain why I'm hitting my chest; because I keep drawing too far after I reach my "reference point". No way for me to know as I don't have a video or anyone to watch me. I'll learn more after my move to WS, NC since there is a good trad community there.