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Offline SLonbow@50

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taking time in your shot
« on: July 21, 2010, 02:06:00 PM »
Hi, I always have trouble taking my time when I shoot. Usually right when I touch the corner of my mouth I release often times causing flinch or miss. Any help? Thanks.

Offline s_mcflurry

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 06:19:00 PM »
Good form involves not only body alignment and reference but also involves pacing of your steps.  When you're learning something new, no matter what it is, it's good to start slow.  Another good technique is to break it down into small steps.

Sounds like you can come to anchor okay.  I would recommend, before even starting your draw, decide that you're not going to shoot that arrow.  Draw your arrow, come to anchor, hold for several seconds, then let down.  Do this for the next several practices to train yourself to have full control of your release.

I would then recommend coming to anchor, deliberately holding for several seconds (3 or 4 seconds), then releasing the arrow.  Again, you want to teach yourself that you have full control.  

Mix this up, go between letting down and shooting.  Or have someone else call out whether to shoot or let down when you're at anchor.  As it becomes ingrained, you can speed up your shot as needed.
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Offline waiting4fall

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 06:28:00 PM »
This may or may not help you, but you can be the judge of that.

 http://www.youtube.com/user/W8N4FALL#p/u/5/MKcHTeKXa9M

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 06:49:00 PM »
waiting4fall!

Hi!
I was at youtube watching the posted clip and wondering about the distance they where shooting at?

Marghly
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Offline waiting4fall

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 07:21:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Margly:
waiting4fall!

Hi!
I was at youtube watching the posted clip and wondering about the distance they where shooting at?

Marghly
Hello. If you're talking about the 2010 Trad World vid, I've no idea. I shoot instinctive, & truly stink @ range estimation.It didn't seem too awful bad, but to give you a number, I have no clue.

Offline Margly

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 08:43:00 PM »
I`m also shooting instinctive without caring so much about the distance, I was just wondering about the IBO trad distances in regular.

Here in Norway we shoot after FITA and maximum distance at 3D is 22 yards.
But in the international rounds we have a max of 33 yards(but then only allowed to shoot split-finger)

Margly
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Offline ncsaknech1ydh

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2010, 12:06:00 AM »
Margly: What is the reasoning in the rules to only let participants only shoot split finger, do you know? I recently switched to 3 under, about 7 months ago and would never go back.
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Offline Margly

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2010, 05:30:00 AM »
We have discussed that up/down and sideways, and there is no reason that is acceptable.

The common explaination is that nobody gets the advantage over other archers.

The new rule was informed in mid April this year and it was a big shock for all of us.

I was in the race for a place on the national team that is going for the European 3D championship in October, and suddenly I have to teach my self the split finger way of shooting.

SL onbow

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(aka J-KID) book Instinctive Archery Insight
He has helped me out with my shooting problems.

I will say he is the best solution for these challenges  :thumbsup:  

Best of luck

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Offline SLonbow@50

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 08:02:00 PM »
where would I get this book, thanks.

Offline Margly

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 06:00:00 AM »
Try at  www.amazon.com  or contact Jay Kidwell here on tradgang!
I`ll guess he have some copies!

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Offline ber643

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2010, 08:26:00 AM »
I had a book by Jay kidwell, soon after I switched to trad, that I got direct from him. I'm not sure if it was that one or an earlier one but it was a neat little book and I learned a lot from it. Can't say enough good about his thought process and way of delivery. I loaned it to someone (more than one friend) - never got it back from the last one. If I ever remember who the devil it was, I am going to sent a platoon of well-trained but irate Marines after them to instill better manners into their life style - .   :eek:      ;)
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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 11:12:00 AM »
I have that book and it is very helpful to someone suffering with target panic(which includes not being in control). My problem was also releasing to early or to quick and this book helped alot.

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 11:17:00 AM »
I also don't understand the thinking behind this rule this is why I don't shoot in tourney's(don't care for politics in something I luv to do.) I think as long as someone doesn't have an actual mechanical sight on their bow they are still shooting barebow style and if a person decides to shoot a certain style they shouldn't complain if someone else beats them because they use a different style. I shoot split finger only because it's how I learned to shoot. I have been playing with three fingers under lately but still not fully comfortable with it yet. Old habits are hard to break and so are shooting styles once you have done them all your life but I will keep working with it.

Offline stickhead

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2010, 09:02:00 PM »
I'm with you brink wolf they already have way to many classes at these shoots and now people are wanting to split classes for shooting style.I shoot split also but most of my crew shoots three under and I think on most days they shoot better than me because they can sight down their arrow.I have tried to learn to shoot three under but my vision does not allow me to see the tip of my arrow so I just have to practice a little more.I see no reason to make someone shoot one way or the other and having more classes that some already only have eight to ten shooters in them.It will just push people away from a sport that so many of us have tried to bring back from the dead.

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2010, 09:32:00 AM »
SLonbow, I had the same basic problem that you have now. To cure it I starting Blank Bagging.  :thumbsup:   You stand 5-8' from the bag(bale) and begin your draw, close your eyes and continue to reference, hold there to the count of 3 and let go. I shot like this for a solid week 25-40 arrows a day until it was ingrained into my mind. When I shoot I still will,first thing shoot9-12 arrows this way. It has improved my accuracy and concentration greatly. I hope this helps you.  :archer:

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Re: taking time in your shot
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 12:22:00 PM »
If you learn a complete sequence for your shooting (be sure it imcorporates good form), you can follow that sequence and pause at any point until you have it ingrained in your memory.  Good way to review if you are haveing a bad day.
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