NOCK RIGHT ON BARE SHAFT NO MATTER WHAT I DO !!! PLEASE HELP!!!

[kansas stik man]

I went to buy some arrows for my new bow and as we started tuning i was hitting nock right and kept happening and after changing arrow length, weight, spine , tip weight and two types of carbon the only thing that would even fly close to straight is a over spined wood shaft.  niether me or the guy at the archery shop have a clue what to do. if you have any ideas please help.  just for a little more info  the bow is a 54" r/d long bow, left handed, 7-1/4 brace hight, 49# @ 28" , i draw 26" got a 15 strand b-50 dac string and nock point is 1/2" high.  any and all sugestions are more than welcome we are stumped !!!

[don s]

so your actually drawing about 43# to 45# at your 26" correct? try using either 1816 or 1916 aluminum with 125 grain heads.

[Doug Treat]

Here's an idea.  Check your release. Are you plucking the string?  I find that to be my most troublesome problem when my arrows don't tune.  Probly just me though.

[30coupe]

Are the arrows grouping with your fletched shafts? In bare shaft tuning, the direction of the nock at impact is not so important. If your fletched shafts were hitting nock right, you'd have a problem.

If they are flying nock right and hitting left of the fletched group, your shafts are too stiff. Add weight to the front.

[30coupe]

Oops, I see you are a lefty. In which case, if they are nock right and hitting left, your shaft is weak. I guess that would explain the overspined arrow working.

However, I find it difficult to believe any carbon arrow would be weak at your draw weight. More likely, the arrows are over spined and are hitting the riser on release, which would kick the nock right for a lefty. I'd load up the front and leave the shafts full length and give that a try.

Most of the time, I don't bother with bare shaft tuning anymore. I shoot big old Zwickey Delta or Grizzly 160 broadheads (fletched). If they group with my field points, I'm done tuning. Don't ever shoot a broadhead on a bare shaft    

[kansas stik man]

well doug i think you are the winner lol i shot a bare shaft about 20 more times at my house with an old carbon i have that is way over spined for my bow but still shot nock right.  this continued to puzzle me that i couldnt get results no matter what but i started looking at things in my form i could adjust to see what would happen and first off was my grip i have shot with just 3 fingers pressed into the back of the bow, and its always worked well with my kodiak mag but as soon as i just griped the bow like it was my .40 cal pistol i shot 20 arrows extremly nock left which means that it was my bad form all along and not some crazy arrow problem.  so i will try the bare shaft tune again and see what will happen hopefully this will improve my shooting all the way around.

[ishoot4thrills]

Originally posted by 30coupe:
Are the arrows grouping with your fletched shafts? In bare shaft tuning, the direction of the nock at impact is not so important.

Well said!  

[atatarpm]

Welcome to the lefty problem! I fought the same trouble for a year when when everyone said I was under spined. The problem was that I was way over spined. After reading several posts on TG. I looked at the problem of false readings in spining. Start with Eastons Spine Charts and drop 2 spines lower. And CX's spine charts are one half step in between the Eastons.