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Offline Ranger B

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Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« on: January 12, 2012, 03:55:00 PM »
This was in response to Jinkster's thread but I thought it might be fruitful to put it up on a separate thread.

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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 04:44:00 PM »
Great demo and video Jimmy!!! Kudos!!!

Guys, LISTEN UP!!! Jimmy hits it square on the nose about working to maintain the mental game.
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 06:05:00 PM »
Excellent video Jimmy.  Thanks for the tips on the mental side of how to maintain great/consistent shooting.  Your videos continue to demonstrate what great form looks like, and how it's achieved.
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 04:12:00 PM »
Enjoyed the video Jimmy. The one thing you still do better than me is the release of the string. I don't always come back with my hand and have a tendency too throw my fingers forward as a release, I know learned bad form on my own as a kid.  Do you have have any hints or tips to try and clear that up.

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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 04:22:00 PM »
Try a string bow and don't focus on the release.  Take your mind off the release.  I do a lot of blind bale focusing on the release and then when I shoot I focus on my bow hand so I'm not concentrating on releasing the string.
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 10:37:00 PM »
You and Moe always good, no doubt. Just finished reading a Christmas present from spouse -O- mine. The Henderson book Understanding Winning Archery. He states as you just did " Proper concentration begins with the preparation of the shot and continues unbroken until after the arrow hits."
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 08:26:00 PM »
Great demo Jimmy! All the items you hit on ring clearly.

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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 06:42:00 PM »
As above, you and moebow have really helped me in this past week alone! I'm going to work harder at the mental part and shoot fewer arrows. Not much point in continuing if I'm "losing"it.
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 11:49:00 PM »
It's all great information, but most people are not shooting olympic style recurves, or a bow of that length. The manageable draw weight may be common sense to some but most people I've seen cannot maintain that form for long because they cannot handle the weight. Kudos for the great demonstration!

I attended the ASA Soutwest shootout this past weekend, it was my first ASA event. I was shocked to learn that olympic style recurves with rests, and stabilizers were in the same class (Traditional) with longbows, a complete contrast to what I'm used to in IBO. I had fun, and witnessed some great shooting!

The point you've made is relevant in whatever equipment one chooses, but some may not be aware of the advantages one might have with a setup such as yours in the video. It may be beneficial to explain those in the future, i.e. manageable draw weights, centershot, rests, riser and limb length etc.

Great work!
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 07:41:00 AM »
Mo0se - I concur that there is an advantage in the ability to tune but I 'm always hesitant to give people an excuse because I get frustrated when I see guys expect to shoot poorly because their equipment is bad.  What I've found is that those who work hard to improve their form and practice hard shoot all bows better than most.  I encourage people to work on their form, but I still go to shoots and hear people literally say that I won because I was shooting an elevated rest or a plunger.  That frustrates me because it says essentially that the hours upon hours of practice had nothing to do with it.  It was the bow that did it.  

Here is a video to demonstrate that you can hit with primitive equipment.  This is a selfbow I made last year.  To reiterate your valid point, I can shoot my olympic style bow better than this bow, but I would be willing to shoot this primitive bow against 99% of the laminate recurves shooting carbon arrows.  
 
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 08:10:00 AM »
Don't get me wrong Ranger B, I'm not calling you out..I understand how much practice it takes to get at that level. I'm in no way throwing you under the bus. Great shooting!
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2012, 08:43:00 AM »
I didn't take it that way. I just wanted to explain why I am hesitant to accept a huge disparity of results at 30 yards and under from shooters.  Thanks for the kind words my friend.
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 09:35:00 AM »
Manageable draw weight + Shot sequence, + consistency for the win! equipment is secondary, in my opinion, it matters more how you use it. I look at bows as tools, and not much more than that. Every job requires the right tool. Be well!
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2012, 11:59:00 AM »
"Every job requires the right tool."  And a skilled operator.  Thanks Jimmy for elevating our skills with your expertise and unselfish help.
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2012, 07:01:00 AM »
That's what I get from you and moebow. This form work will help me with MY equipment. And it does.
As per MoOse. I don't know about just tools though. I'm developing a "relationship" with my bow...
Oh, oh too much information!
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2012, 05:08:00 PM »
Thanks for another great video Jimmy. I look forward to all of your posts and videos.

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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2012, 06:25:00 PM »
That is indeed amazing!  Jimmy, if you don't mind my asking, how to you aim at a target that is 100 yards away?

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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2012, 08:38:00 AM »
nice vids

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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 01:33:00 AM »
Thank you for posting this.  Amongst other things, I really like how steady your head is when you draw the bow.  My tendency is to lean into the bow some and I see it in the loss of power in those shots because it tends to shorten my draw length.

One question though.  Is your bow arm as straight as you can make it when you come to full draw?
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Re: Form - erect shoulders and back (also mental) video
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2012, 12:44:00 AM »
Again good video...good stuff,a turkey at 85-100yds... I enjoyed it.

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