I really tried to work on those things today. Drawing around is WAY better than the over the hill thing. I did lay my bow hand around the handle, I dont use a sling. I also got the string more into the crease of my finger and off the pad. As for the "string" hand, I cant get my thumb down. When I do, I cant get the arrow under my eye?? Putting the string in the crease did help to relax my hand. There are some shots that just "feel" right and I watch them go right where Im looking. Others, just dont have the feel. With some practice, I can tell it will help. The thumb, I just cant figure out how to get it down and still be able to see the shot. Thanks and keep it coming.