Question on bending at the waist

[South MS Bowhunter]

Ok, trying to improve form and accuracy after a long time of fighting TP. After speaking to Joel Turner a couple of times on the phone something has clicked and I'm now able to get a repeatable anchor and control the shot for the mostpart (thanks Joel   )  

Now my battle is focusing on a spot while not being distracted but that's another story for another day.

My question for now is do you guys draw to anchor and then bend at the waist for shots lower than 90 degrees?

After hearing and reading about bending at the waist I've tried to concentrate on bending at the waist instead of pointing down and drawing.

My results are more hits and less low misses, but I'm drawing at a 90 degree angle and then bending into the target.  

Whats everyone else doing?

[moebow]

Either way.  The important thing is to maintain the 90 degree angle of the bow arm to the spine(torso).  I think most find that to draw on the level (horizon) then bend is easier than to bend then draw.  BUT!!! whatever works best for you.

Bottom line is that when you reach anchor, maintaining the 90 degree angle between the bow arm and the spine makes the shot more stable and solid.

Arne

[South MS Bowhunter]

Thanks Arne, I meant to give you credit in the first post.  Lot of good lessons from you, thanks.

[reddogge]

I push my hips away from the target and set my angle at the waist and then draw, aim and shoot. If severly downhill I open my stance up but I still set my angle before drawing.

I always shoot with the Hill/Schulz draw.  For steep downward shots the draw relation to the target is nearly same as a level shot except my stance, canted bow and waiste is bent to match the angle.  With the bow rolled over, the draw slides up to the target until it is on, then the last 6" comes straight back, a slight hesitation at anchor and the arrow is gone.  Sometimes, I do find the need to adjust my aim at full draw a bit, so then my hold is a bit longer.

[South MS Bowhunter]

Ok, tried Richards way of pushing my hip away from the target to keep parallel and bend at the hips. I think I like this way better than actually leaning and bending forward, much easier to do. thanks guys for the tips.

[reddogge]

John,
I was holding out on you. Here is a good resource for all kinds of up and down shooting I got my information from. Hope it is of some help to you.

 http://www.archery.ie/field.pdf

[South MS Bowhunter]

Thanks Richard good stuff! Bookmarked the page.

I usually bend first, them make my normal draw to anchor!

Bisch

[South MS Bowhunter]

Thanks guys for all the inputs!  I've been shooting for a # of years off and on and really battled TP for most of the years and could never get anything consistent going with form due to it.

Within the last year something has finally clicked and I give Joel Turner the credit for taking time to talk about the mind and its relation to TP.

Now, I don't have it all figured out as for the Psycho Trigger but I do have a repeatable anchor and I'm improving in form and consistency.

So all these tip I've heard before are now all like starting new again and most of all my fun and confidence is back    

[champ38]

Hey John, You where a whole different shooter at this past Spring Fling. Im happy for you bro. Seeing the change in your shooting motivated me to start form work.

[South MS Bowhunter]

Thanks Shane appreciate the encouragement.

[RecurveRookie]

See what Coach Arne says, but I bend my forward knee to lean my body over, but only so much before it's a lot of strain.