Crawl/3 under help

[OBXarcher]

Well like so many others I watched THE PUSH, loved it and had to run out and try the crawl. I have been wanting to try something to get my shooting to the next level. I have always been a pretty good shot but not where I want to be.

My problem is no matter what I do I can not use the tip of my arrow on the spot. I consistently hit WAY left of point on. I have tuned good arrows and also used purposely weak to try and bring impact right but nothing works. I have tried a million different anchor points, some of which nearly ripped parts of my face off.
Will try some video later but any others solve this problem and want to throw a fix at me ?

these are my 20 yards groups with several different spines and tip weights.

   

   

[OBXarcher]

Ps. The blue tape is point on spot

Thanks guys

[Green]

Eye dominance issue?

[OBXarcher]

Nope, right eye dominant. Tried with both open, squinting left and left closed. Same result. Thought about closing both eyes too LOL

Thanks

[Matt Parker]

I have shot 3 under for the past 4 years. When I started I noticed I was shooting way left also. In my case it was my anchor point. My shooting hand was resting on my cheek bone which caused the arrow the be at a angle to the target. I'm a right handed shooter. So I had to lower my anchor so my hand goes up to my cheek bone instead of on top of it. I immediately noticed that the arrow lined up straight with the target. You may have the same problem.

[McDave]

One of the potential problems one could have with the crawl is that the distance from the anchor to the nock of the arrow creates a sensitivity where a tiny angular movement at your anchor could be magnified at the nock.  A person using the fixed crawl needs to have both a solid anchor and also a solid position for the nock of the arrow.  Moving the nock of the arrow right or left 1/8" will change the POI of the arrow by 6" at 20 yards.  So for example, if you put a slight cant in the bow that moves the nock of the arrow 1/8" to the right or left of where it should be, your arrows will group 6" to the right or left of your spot.

[OBXarcher]

Well, shot for a while and may have found a new anchor. A little strange feeling. I have to get my nose behind the string, a little like a compound shooter does. Got point on target and shot some good groups. Will play for a while with it.

Any other thoughts are still very welcome

[ThePushArchery]

OBX,

String Blur in my opinion is the aimer's rear sight.

We had footage of a string blur discussion ready for the film, but decided to cut it for follow-up film "The Push 2" as the topic was a little advanced for the content being discussed.

One pitfall some fall into is tuning their arrows to support windage impacts. The key is to tune your bareshafts to impact with your fletched shafts regardless of where the fletched group is impacting in comparison to your intended impact point.

In your case - tune your bareshafts to impact with your fletched shafts, even if your fletched shafts are hitting 6" left of the blue spot.

Once that is accomplished, you can simply adjust your string blur (read that rear sight) to bring your groups into the blue spot.

When you're at a comfortable anchor point, take a second and notice where the string is located in your peripheral vision in comparison to your riser. Assuming you're a right handed shooter, your string blur is probably 1" to the right of your riser.

If you want to bring your group to the right, but keeping your tip on the blue spot, adjust your string blur so it's lined up with the right side of your riser. (or whatever landmark you want to use)

At first it will be kind of weird because essentially you're paying attention to your string blur and your arrow tip at the same time, but eventually it becomes natural and you don't have to worry about string blur anymore because your anchor point and head position needed to bring your string blur (rear sight) in line will become natural and normalized.

So if your bareshafts are grouping with your fletched shafts, don't adjust your tip weight or arrow length any further. They are tuned. Don't adjust them to adjust your impact point at the target because you're detuning your set up.

Simply utilize string blur to adjust your windage left and right with your tuned arrows.

Impacting left, Bring your string blur closer to your riser (move it left)

Impacting to the right, bring your string blur to the outside of your riser (move it right)

Reverse that for a left handed shooter.

Hope that helps.

[ThePushArchery]

One last thing OBX - your groups are super solid and tight!!

Nice shooting! A slight adjustment in string blur (rear sight) and you'll be peppering that spot with groups like that!

[kenneth butler]

Guys, would a thinner or softer side plate help,or would that mess with his tune?