I agree guys. In Pats situation, though, I think I could be MORE accurate with a stickbow. I mean, I think its easier to pick a spot on a leopard (no pun intended) then aim with a pin and even more constricting peep when all your looking at is the cat bathed in a small red light. And wouldn't it be hard to see a fiber optic pin in those situations. But, like everything, it always comes down to ethics, I guess.