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Offline Jay Campbell, JD

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Re: Carbon Arrow to fit inside Gold TIp?
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2007, 09:02:00 PM »
UPDATE:

I ordered the Golfworks high strength, ever-flexible epoxy ($10 a tube).  Overall, it may be the best solution, as it seems to have been designed to bond carbon shafts to golf club heads for high striking force applications.
 
But, while I wait for it to arrive, along with a few dozen new Gold Tips and components, I tried the Gorilla glue.  I wanted to get the prep steps down anyway.  Taking what seemed to be the best suggestions from the Net, I used a .243 bore brush on the inside of the 30 inch Gold Tips, sanded the outside of the 12.5 inch 230 SSTs, washed both with dawn detergent and water, rinsed, then swabbed with alcohol and let dry. Before asembly, I swabbed the inside of the GTs and the outside of the inserts with water, so there would be enough water for a reagent for the Gorilla glue.
 
I poured out a bunch of Gorilla glue and used a full-length SST to coat the interior of the GTs all the way up with glue, hoping that the glue will help hold the interior short piece in place and block it from traveling back in the shaft, in addition to the bond between the insert and the shaft itself. Then I coated the short insert piece and placed it in the GT, followed by the point assembly, which with 250 grains of 50 grain weights, the aluminum insert, and the 125 gr. adaptor, is pretty long. I wiped the excess glue, which didn't require any solvent to clean properly.  Then comes the problem of "clamping". Gorilla glue expands as it cures, so the glue inside the shaft has to be kept to a reasonable minimum, but the assembly has to be "clamped". I placed the arrows in a 4" PVC tube on the floor, and put a heavy hunting boot upside down over the arrow fletching ends, with a 1 pound weight on the boot (which leaned against a table top). After checking that each shaft had tension on it against the floor, I let it alone. After curing, only the slightest bit of glue squeaked out of the tip assembly, and they all look flush and tight.
 
As you know, overall with a 160 gr head this makes a 1010 grain, 30", very heavy FOC of 24% thin arrow which is flying better out of my 80# BW than any arrow to-date.  Bareshafts are flying at 20 yards as if they were fletched.
 
Now either Gorilla Glue for the next 2 dozen or Golfworks epoxy!  The torture test has begun. Karen drove the Gorilla Glue arrows into a block of 4x4s three times while shooting in the back yard this afternoon. No damage or looseness so far. - Jay Campbell

Offline Rick McGowan

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Re: Carbon Arrow to fit inside Gold TIp?
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2007, 08:45:00 AM »
"Karen drove the Gorilla Glue arrows into a block of 4x4s three times while shooting in the back yard this afternoon. No damage or looseness so far". Jay, can't you find a softer backstop?

Offline Robertfishes

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Re: Carbon Arrow to fit inside Gold TIp?
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2007, 05:31:00 PM »
Jay, I keep forgeting to send those ten 2300's out to you. they are uncut(31 1/2" to nock adaptor) but have 4 inch feathers and aluminum nock adaptors glued on them.

Offline Jay Campbell, JD

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Re: Carbon Arrow to fit inside Gold TIp?
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2007, 11:56:00 PM »
Rick: I thought if I ratcheted up the cost and pain of a miss it would decrease the misses by the Mrs. Apparently not.  :-) One of those 1000 grain arrows hit the wood fence and blew right through it. Haven't found it. In fairness to Karen, we're shooting from all distances and positions, really torturing ourselves and the arrows. Course, I haven't hit the fence or the backstop, but I'm not as adventurous as she is.  

Robert: No big deal, send if you ever get time. We'll be in FLA this week hunting hogs for the last time until next October. - Jay

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