I have taken 180lbs+ hogs with a 160 grn stos on a cedar arrow.I shot all three with a 41 lb Blackwidow. The arrows all stuck out opposite side. One went all the way through.I don't think they are all that bad unless they are the very large variety, and you don't hit them in the right spot. But that is with any game. Pick a spot, and choose your shot.Good luck