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Offline Cody Roiter

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do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« on: June 18, 2005, 11:08:00 AM »
do one of you guys have a howard hill arrow if you do can you put a pic of it on for me
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2005, 11:22:00 AM »
Yep...I do.  I'll get a pic up as soon as I get a chance.
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2005, 11:30:00 AM »
Good Morning Cody, glad to see you over here on this forum!
These are Howard Hill arrows from the 1930s I believe. These are hand made arrows and his handmade broadheads.              
 
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2005, 01:01:00 PM »
where did you get the arrows from guys
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2005, 03:20:00 PM »
raghorn i not say that the arrow you have are not howard hill arrows but in the 1930s
they did not have nocks they where self nocks
i have seen a howard hill arrow for the 1930s
that had a self nock now maybe  i don't know
want i am talking about they look like the mid-nocks
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2005, 06:34:00 PM »
Cody,
Actually these are my arrows, I have been away from the site for a while and have now returned. The arrows and the bow they came with have been tentatively traced to Viking Archery of San Francisco, who in 1938 was the distributor for Howard. The nocks are first vintage Celluloid Mid-Nocks, and were the first plastic nocks. Later mid-nocks had a cock indicator on them, these do not. The broadheads show evidence and similarities to the Earl Grubs heads which where made earlier in the 30's and more closely resemble the 1942 Howard Hill-Ben Pearson Arrow, which to date has  not been found. Wade has an arrow without the head, it  is stamped with both names but the head has been broken off. My arrows carry no stamp. To the best of my reasoning and it has not been documented, these arrows and heads are transitional arrows from the Earl Grubs to the 1942 Howard Hill Ben Pearson arrow.
To my knowledge there are only four of these heads in existence. Wade has two heads very similar, but he feels they are yet another version. I am anxious to see Terry's arrow.
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2005, 11:24:00 PM »
Terry, Did you ever get the picture of your HH Arrow? Love to see them all.
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2005, 02:46:00 PM »
Can you guess who these belonged to????


 

 
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2005, 04:25:00 PM »
Paul:
Isn't it a shame that those arrows and the quiver are covered with dust and just leaning against the wall!! I drool over them every time I see them and can't get Craig to anything with them to keep them from deteriating.
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2005, 06:06:00 PM »
I know exactly what you mean Bob! the were just laying around in the corner of the shop. Saw the buckskin outfit that Howard made when he filmed "The last Wildnerness". Again, it was just left in a box on a shelf. Boy, if all that stuff was mine, I'd have in bomb proof glass display cases!

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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2005, 04:07:00 PM »
Cody:
You might be interested to know, the arrows in the quiver that Paul has posted. The longest one white with four black bands, was Ben Pearson's Elephant arrow. The next longest was Howard's Elephant arrow, also the one pictured on the table is the same one. The one to the left of those two with white crown dip and 3 black feathers was Bob (bobcat) Swinehart's Elephant arrow.
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2005, 03:20:00 PM »
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Originally posted by aromakr:
Paul:
Isn't it a shame that those arrows and the quiver are covered with dust and just leaning against the wall!! I drool over them every time I see them and can't get Craig to anything with them to keep them from deteriating.
Bob
You mean to say that the fellow who has these items has them just leaning against the wall and gathering dust???

That pisses me off  :mad:  

Wonderful pieces of modern longbow history once owned by a man so many of us revere being treated in such a fashion is just flat out wrong  :knothead:    "[nope]"
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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2005, 10:13:00 AM »
Paul,

In the photo, behine the arrows in the quiver, is that some of Howards archery medals? I know he won 198 straight tournaments. Just curious.

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Re: do one of you have a real howard hill arrow
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2005, 10:55:00 AM »
I'd suspect that the current owner of such memorabilia would gladly give the opportunity to a lucky fella to keep such items in the "proper" fashion should a large enough check be cut to him...  Not casting dispersions about just that it is very very expensive to have such goods stored in a non-destructive environment and it is usually reserved for those groups with large trust funds.  I know that all of my collectibles (some are unique and very valuable to someone) are not stored in a purged glass case and simply sit out in my rec room but that's the way it goes.

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