Length of Bear T/D Limbs

[Snakeeater]

Does anyone know, or is anyone willing to measure, the length of the various limbs (#1, 2, and 3) for the Bear Custom/Kodiak Take Down bow?

A friend of mine has a form for making the limbs but he doesn't know what number limb it was made from.

Thanks,

Larry

[Falk]

Hi!
I took a yardstick and run it along the belly side of #2-limbs (green tips) - from nock grove to the very end of their base - following each curve or angle. I got plus/minus 23.3"

I've #3-limbs too, but the bow is strung right now with them and it's late over here and I just don't want to mess around with it tonight. Maybe tomorrow I'll add an other reading for you ...

[PAPALAPIN]

All I have are #2 limbs, and FALK gave you those measurements.

[Horney Toad]

My #3 limbs are about 26" total length.

[Falk]

My #3-limbs (red tips) are 25.2" - measured in the same way as described above ...

I really would like to see the lenght of some #1-limbs myself. I've heard somewhere that those "#2"-limbs from the 1980th (as mine probably will be) actually are #-ones by the standard, when all three lenght were still available!?! I was never able to proof that one myself though. Still wondering - and the reason why I posted the tip color along with the measurements.

[Snakeeater]

I got a measuremnt of #3 limbs from end to end of 26" from someone else. So it looks like from end to end measured along the belly they are likely to be:

#3: 26"
#2: 24"
and I would guess that #1 would be 22", with a 2" difference between sizes.

Anyone got some #1 limbs they can measure for us?

Thanks to all,

Larry

[Earl E. Nov...mber]

I have all three #1s are white tips, 2s an 3s are red tips, but it sounds like we have different ways of measuring them going on.
Using a 1/4" steel tape from my P&Y kit, Hook in the string groove, measuring along the belly, to the flat surface on the butt # 1=20 1/8". # 2=20 3/4" #3=21 3/4
Going on the back tip to tip #1=23 1/2 #2=24 1/4 #3=25 1/4
As the crow flies on a straight line from tip to end of butt #1=20 5/8 #2=21 1/2 #3=22 1/2. I have a pair of Sims vibration isolators on the belly of the #3's and had to maneuver a bit around them.
All Measurments were taken from lower limbs

[Earl E. Nov...mber]

Laying all three limbs on the counter, 2 and 3 have similar lines and curves.. All three the tip is the  same distance above the counter, but on the #1, the limb is straighter, then ending in a much more pronounced curve..

I believe the green tips are designated 2B not #2, and they too make a 60" bow on a B riser as the #1's do.
The only pair of green tips I have had stacked something terrible on an A riser and a long draw.

[Falk]

posted by Earl E.: I believe the green tips are designated 2B not #2, and they too make a 60" bow on a B riser as the #1's do.
The only pair of green tips I have had stacked something terrible on an A riser and a long draw.

Yes, they are marked 2B and on my B-riser I actually get a bowlenght of little more then 59" with them (<= according to AMO; this is: "revers engineering" from propper string lenght plus 3").
I've always wondered and thought how useless the T/D bowlenght charts in any old Bear Catalog are   :confused:  
As I said, I heard of it before, but I could never believe (or proof) it because, IMHO, it would not have made sense at all to call them "anything with 2" limbs - when they are in fact "1s" and my factory had used exactly these numbers before to separate the different lenght    

Obviously, mankind has done a zillion of non sense things since their first one reached for a branch to use it as a club - unfortunately ...

BTW, the "2B's" stack badly on a B-riser too.

[Earl E. Nov...mber]

I am sure when they did it they had their reason. Hopefully it was a good one just not clear now what it might have been

[Snakeeater]

I had heard that at some time in their evolution the geometry of the limbs did change with one having a continuous gentle curve and the other being more of a straight limb with a pronounced curve at the tip like the ones mentioned above by Earl E. November.

Question: are the uppper and lower limbs the same length for a given set?

Thanks to all for the help, keep those measurements coming!!!

Snakeeater

[Earl E. Nov...mber]

Running out of time tonight but am going to do some tracings of the various lengths.. My guess is the differnt curve is due to the short limb rather than the style, but it will be an interesting quest.. Need to find someone with white tips #2 and 3 limbs.. I will check top and bottoms but if there is a difference in lengths it should be slight.
I know I took a #2 white tip top limb and a #2 red tip top limb, filled one hole drilled another, retillered them and made a set of shootable limbs out of two blown pair.. Last I knew they were still shooting.