vintage Bear Bow Quiver problem.

[Takedown]

Hi Folks,
I am having a problem getting a vintage Bear 8-arrow snap on (w/springarms) to fit my 1966 Kodiak (thanks again Bowdoc!)I believe I have the right length spring arms, but they just don't seem to really fit well around the limbs. Also, the quiver, when mounted, cants the arrows back at an angle to the string rather than being "somewhat parallel" to the riser. What might wrong? Did they all fit like that? I really want to use this quiver this fall, Help!

Could any of you show me (w/pics) of what a properly mounted Bear 8-arrow quiver looks like?
also any good tips to share in making it as quiet as possible.
Thanks a lot,
Harry

[reddogge]

It sounds like it is fitting like it should.  The arrows angle back and I have my arms adjusted all the way up to fit a Kodiak Hunter.  I find this quiver noisy so I replaced it with a Selway though.

[PAPALAPIN]

I highly recommend you DO NOT use that quiver on your Kodiak.  Especially if you just had it refinished.  Those rubber coated spring arks WILL mar up the limbs where they make contact.

They will rub every time you flex the bow.  Nostalgia is good, and keeping you rig period correct is understandable, but not at the risk of messing up your finish.

This is a big reason that you don't see those quivers used a lot today,  It is also the reason they came out with the snapp on and double bolt mount quivers.

Just my thoughts.

[Takedown]

Hi PapaLapin,
Gosh no, I recently BOUGHT the bow from Bowdoc, It did not have a new refinish, just one out of his collection. In fact it has a few pretty good dings and dents, it was his back up elk bow.

The finish was....shiny but..... (hope yo'all dont think I am a "heretic") but I solved the shiny problem by hitting it good with a fine scotch brite finishing pad, dulled it up to a nice satin sheen, low gloss. I hate camo tape or bow socks, So.. I will try to use the old quiver on it for now.

Any info on how it should look mounted on the bow?Any tips on making it more quiet?

PPS one day I will want to refinish it, for now its a hunt'in tool! (albeit a cool-vintage hunt'in tool!)

Thanks for your response!
Harry.

[M60gunner]

We used to carry only 4 arrows in the 8 arrow quiver to help cut down on noise. Really not much else can be done INHO because of the spring arms not having a solid contact with bow.
The Bear quiver I use is made from one of the models for their early compounds. I built a different bottom bracket to keep the arrows away from the bow.
I wish I could find some decals for the quiver. I bought one of the 8 arrow quivers in unused condition at a yard sale. Well it had dirt on it and I used "Simple green" to clean it up. I wiped out the silkscreening on the hood.
I also found that surgical tubing over the spring arms helps keep the finish from getting screwed up.

[PAPALAPIN]

If you are not worried about the finish, by all means go for it.

I really can't advise you on use, since I have not actually used one since the '60's.  Yeah, I was around when you could buy the orginals new.

I do remember this though.  Make danged sure you practice and learn to shoot the bow with the quiver mounted and a full load of arrows.  The bow will shoot completely different.

When I got my first one, I was dead accurate with the quiver off.  I slapped the quiver on it and went hunting.  At 15 yds I was concentrating on her heart and I totally missed her butt.  I got three shots at that doe and the same thing on each shot.  Finally, she turned around and headed back.  I said what the heck...I aimed for tail and made a great double lung shot.  I got her but it took some creative aiming.

[Takedown]

PapaLapin,
That is sure enough good information. I have noticed that same thing myself! I have been practicing with the quiver on the bow, but I was never sure it was mounted right because it just won't hang parallel to the riser like a "normal" bow quiver does! I have been working on making it quieter by re aligning apring arms slightly and by using self adheasive black felt on all riser contact points as well as on the bracket cross members. (arrows were rattling on them).
As of yesterdays practice session, it seemed (finally!) pretty darn quite!

It must have worked, this morning on on opening day of bow season here in Kentucky, I killed a nice young yearling buck, one of 7 deer I saw, it giving me the only good shot. Not a big guy, but one I will enjoy on the barbeque! I still have additional deer to kill on my tag, so I am not through yet!  :D  
Thanks for your responses.
Harry

[TRAP]

Mission Accomplished    

Trap

[PAPALAPIN]

Takedown

Any deer yo kill with a traditional rig is a TROPHEY.  Especall if it is your first.

[JimB]

It is a good idea to LocTite all screws on those quivers.Otherwise,the screws can gradually shoot loose and be a source of vibration.Always check to make sure your broadheads don't contact the hood.Also,on the 2 pieces of aluminum that attach to the rubber gripper,I always filled the gap between these 2 pices of metal with silicone caulk.That will cut down any chance for vibration there,between aluminum and frame wires etc..Also,check were the frame wires are riveted to the hood.Silicone that point if it is loose enough to vibrate.The arrows are supposed to be angled back,otherwise,when you lean the bow against a tree,the nocks are digging into the dirt.Congrats on the buck.

[Earl E. Nov...mber]

Biggest noise makers I have found on the old spring arms is the rivets holding the hood on.. With vibration they tend to loosen up.. Best advise I can give on them is to fill them with Shoo Goo or the likes

[Takedown]

Thanks Guys,
I appreciate the tips! I will try the shoegoo, thats really good stuff. After the tweeking I have already done it has quieted down nicely.

Jim B and PapaLapin, thanks for the congrats on the buck. I figure if me a couple of buddys were camping we could eat him over the weekend, he was a little skipper, but my shot was true and I was greatful for that! The venison will be fantastic I am sure. This little deer broke a dryspell of a few years, I always see deer within range but just dont seem to get a proper shot opportunity.

Anyway,I quartered him up and have him packed in salted ice right now. Will cut and wrap tonight!
Thanks,
Harry.

[TRAP]

"This little deer broke a dryspell of a few years, I always see deer within range but just dont seem to get a proper shot opportunity."

It's the Bear "MOJO"

[Takedown]

Thanks Trap!
You may be right, this is the first year in several I have hunted with a Bear Bow!

I have add'l antlerless tags, so I will get out more! Hope to keep the "Bear MOJO" going!
Harry.

[PAPALAPIN]

Oh oh... The Bear Mojo is gonna be a factor on the deer population in Northern Kentuckey.

[Takedown]

I sure hope so!
Thanks again, good luck to all of you who are hunting this season!
Harry