Dycoff is the one that makes the take down sleeves, i believe since the late 70", None the less, one of his customers is Wes Wallace, Sure is kinda hard shorting out the fine Archers of the Pacific Northwest, Dycoff brought some pics to me at my work of a buffalo he had shot in Montana this month.It was brought down with a St Charles,long bow he and Glenn had made i think in early 80s and a Stone point he had made, nice critter.. Great topic look forward to more feed back,, CWarberg