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Offline Cody Roiter

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Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« on: January 24, 2009, 07:43:00 PM »
Hello Guys what a day it has been. This noon I get home from collage and didn't have much going on as it's very cold out. I got thinking I would go see an older friend. Well on the way to is house as I was driveing along I look to the side of the road to see some of are cows out in some one's yard. So I pull over and put them back in. Well any ways I get to ken's house I go in we started to talk about bows and arrows. and he was telling me How he got started with all of this He told me there was a man that lived in rockford who made bows  who when he meet him was working for a refrigerator comp in the 1950s I asked him if his name was Nel Grumly he said it was Nel something who has been making bows for years. So I am thinking it is. Well ken told me in a latter that nal wrote him has a step by step on how to make a glass bow. and also how to make forms ( I have the 4 forms that Nel drew for him. ) But did Nel make any glass bows for any one or him self. One of the forms I have looks to be an bush bow that was from the drawing he got. I asked him if he still had the drawing he said he will try and look them up as well as some home video ( which I hope he finds)
Also he has a bow that Nel helped him make there is no name on the bow just 55@28 4-12-1950. it made of all wood with a brown bear glass on the back. it dose look like a bush bow.
I hope I can see this stuff or maybe take pics of latter and home video. Not a bad day at all...

Cody
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Offline Cody Roiter

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 02:51:00 AM »
No one has any info on Nel making glass bows.
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 10:09:00 AM »
Cody - You have discovered some great information.

In early 1948, Nels Grumley left Bear Archery and moved to Rockford, Michigan where he started his own business "Grumley Custom Bow Shop". These bows are referred to by many collectors as “Rockford Grumleys”, “Rockford Bows” or “After Bear Grumleys”. I have photographs of the Rockford Shop & Sign, and have visited Rockford several times over the years. My last visit was Sept 2008.

While at Rockford, Nels worked for Gibson Refrigerator to make a go of it. Nels used laminations of Black Refrigerator Plastic in making some of the “Rockford Grumleys”. In some of the Rockford risers, he used vertically stacked laminations of black plastic and wood. He also used laminations of Refrigerator Plastic on the belly of some bows. The eye catching white ink Grumley signature on the black belly is perhaps the most distinctive of the many markings that Nels used during his career. Of the 100 plus Grumley Bows I own, only 11 are “Rockford Grumleys” and only 4 of them have laminations of Refrigerator Plastic.

I would be interested in seeing the forms you have for the glass bows, to see if they were used for his Woven Glass Bows, or the Straight, Unidirectional Glass Bows, as Nels make both while at Rockford.

I have four “Rockford Grumleys” that have woven glass backs, like that used on Bear’s Grizzly in 1949 & 1950 as well as the Kodiak in 1950.

One of my favorite “Rockford Grumleys” is one with Straight, Unidirectional Glass on the Back. It is not marked with weight, but it is one of the stiffest bows that I have ever owned.

I also have many personal items that were owned by Nels Grumley as well some of his correspondence. This memorabilia includes envelopes with photographs and brochures that Fred Bear addressed to Nels Grumley at Gibson Refrigerator in Rockford… From the notes and the gestures, it is apparent that Fred and Nels remained friends until the last.

Cody – After speaking with you yesterday, we should talk again today. It is very possible that some of my woven glass bows or the straight glass bows will fit your forms.

Anything related to your information, the forms, the bow, etc, could be used in a book about Nels Grumley and his bows. I now have more than enough material for such a book, photographs, personal letters, personal hunting maps, personal bow and arrows, personal bow making tools and a full complement of his production bows from 1930 into the 1950s.
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Offline seboomook

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 10:47:00 AM »
What great history! Wade, really enjoying all your posts, thanks.

Offline Cody Roiter

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 10:54:00 AM »
Hello Wade I will give u a call in about 2hr.  I have to run to a freind's house who has a bow for me to look at.

Cody
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Offline JavelinaHink

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 10:57:00 AM »
Cody.......thanks for sharing

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Offline TRAP

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 12:22:00 PM »
Did you get all the cows checked?????

Just kidding Cody, thanks for the post.  

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Offline Cody Roiter

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2009, 02:39:00 PM »
Wade U are the man. Thanks for your help..

Cody
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Offline d. ward

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 09:38:00 AM »
I would love to see some pics of those forms...bd

Offline Bjorn

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 10:38:00 AM »
Wow you guys-amazing stuff! I am waiting for more on this.  :thumbsup:    :coffee:

Offline TimZeigler

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Re: Nel Grumley Glass Bows
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 01:21:00 PM »
Thats some awesome info, and a great find Cody!  Please feel free to post some pics if you get a chance, I'd love to see the form or bow or both  :)
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