Those are great pics, Charlie! I have the same ones from the GLLI in Berrien Springs in the early 90s! John was there also. Grumley's are rare, but we have some great bowyers out there at this time, that can make a great replica! I don't like saying "replica" because everyone is a great creation of the design and use of the gift of mother nature the, wood! Bowyers such as Gene McGlashen, an other Michianer and John McCullough make great replicas. Tom phillips talked of a bow he had, made by John Brooks of Indiana! There are many great craftsman that can create this style of bow, and we should be happy to have them in our mist. And let's hope that more desire to build this traditional style to come. Good shootin, Steve.