This is a regularly recycling thread, but always fun and worthwhile, and this time full of good advice. Get away from the mobs and esp. the motors. Do not bugle, ever, and cow call sparingly and quietly (works good to calm 'em down and even bring 'em back after a shot and/or hit). Always hunt uphill unless you're a young bull. This year one friend and I (he 59, me 61) packed out 3 elk almost effortlessly, as it was all level or downhill. I'm not sure I'd agree with the last week as the best time, although it can be great. By then the big herds are formed with lots of bugling and almost constant movement. If you can keep up with them, hour after hour, don't do any calling, and are good enough to stay on 'em undetected even when the wind is unfavorable, you might pick off a satellite. I prefer the second week in Sept. (unfortunatetly, black powder weed) when the animals are still scattered and bulls are bugling and wallowing and you more easily stalk the bugles. Ambush hunting is good then too. No matter, it's all fun. dave