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Offline jediazul

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Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« on: October 28, 2010, 11:11:00 AM »
Hi everyone, and greetings from sunny southern Spain! Once again I turn to all you experts with some questions about the Super Kodiak, I just happened to grab one on the big auction site, paid a decent price for it and asked all the right questions I felt, before finally having it shipped overseas. As you all know there is a general mistrust from both sides when it comes to this kind of transaction, but I have been fortunate to deal with mostly very generous and kind people who have made an effort to get me the product as best they good for a fair price, including some who just sent me stuff for free!! (Thank you Bill Skinner!!) Anyways, i received the bow in good condition except for some little details which weren´t given prior to the transaction, as you can see in the fotos it has been fiddled with before, and I just want some expert opinion on what i should do. I want to use the bow, not hang it, it is beautiful and dangerous and that is the life I want for it, but before stringing please let me know what actions you would take, thank you.
By the way, I am not referring to the seller in any way, I struck a deal, we both honoured our parts and I have no qualms, just want to get the bow into the woods!

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 11:19:00 AM »
Sorry guys, pictures are upcoming! Just to give some detail it looks like some missing filler between the laminations, but already on the riser...

Offline Steve95

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 05:18:00 PM »
Sounds like you might need to fill any voids and then seal/refinish the bow. Some clear tape might get you by until after hunting season. The Super Kodiak is a very solid bow, so stringer up and go for it! Always check and recheck any issues with use. Good luck.

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 03:36:00 PM »
Me again, can someone post my fotos for me? I don´t have a photobucket account and figured it might be easier through someone else while i register? Thank you!

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 03:52:00 PM »
Hi one more time! I got some pictures uploaded but i cant seem to get them to the right size for posting, so here is the link, I have more, but these seemed to show the missing filler best, let me know what you think and any advice is greatly appreciated, as was yours Steve!
 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gl24h79r7qAhrs7DN7cKAA?feat=directlink

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 03:59:00 PM »
is this possible?
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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 09:16:00 AM »
Since Im still posting I might as well add some questions for you guys:
In a certain light my Super Kodiak riser actually shows wood-grain through the black. I read through some other posts which mention that 1967 - 1969 the risers were made out of Bubinga or brazilian rosewood? Not formica as the rest? More info would also be really appreciated, thanks again!

Offline Mike/Columbia Basin

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 09:26:00 AM »
The phenolic will show as a grain since it is laminated. The rosewood is on the caps of the riser.

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2010, 09:29:00 AM »
aaaahhh, ok, so its like compressed layers like plywood, and the outer layer would show as wood grain?

Offline Mike/Columbia Basin

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2010, 01:06:00 PM »
Yes, that's correct.

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 02:47:00 PM »
I still need some advice about the missing filler in the bow, if you guys can check out the pictures and give me some more advice it would really help before I string her up

Offline Mike/Columbia Basin

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 04:14:00 PM »
The only thing that might work is the thin loctite 420 or something like it. That can be a problem there at the fade out and especially with the phenolic. I would want to get bowdoc"s oppinion on that one before shooting or stringing it.

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 06:19:00 PM »
I was checking adhesives online and they had epoxies or stuff like Titebond III, can that be used? I will wait for more advice or recommendations, thanks again Mike, am like a baby with a new toy!!

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 07:26:00 PM »
oh yeah I would use loc tite or some thin super glue before you shoot it to much.It may be OK for a while but if any moisture gets into that gap that could cause problems bd

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2010, 07:30:00 PM »
Nice Looking Kodiak, hopefully the Bowdoc will chime in with some assistance. He is THE MAN!!! KYArcher

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 07:32:00 PM »
There you go. We were typing at the same time. KYArcher

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2010, 09:50:00 AM »
Ok, my plan is to clean out the gap from residue of another filler, (do I heat it, scrape it?) then to use a syringe and fill it with whatever most recommended filler would be, but then? Do I have to clamp it down to squeeze excess filler out? or just immobilize it till it sets? Also if this is temporary how do i make a more permanent fix? Sorry for all the questions folks, just being this far away it is virtually impossible to get an expert to fix it, so i got to do my best! I just had a nice Gibson E335 sent to an "expert" here in Malaga to repair a broken neck... took 6 months!!!! Good news is she is fixed and plays great now! Thanks again all of you!

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2010, 10:33:00 AM »
no heating no scraping just blow it clean with dry compressed air.I would just fill the gap until the loc tite is flush with the surface.I won't not clamp it but rather let the glue pull the crack closed.You may have to fill it once or twice.If you use a good super glue like loc tite it will be permanent bd

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Re: Bear Super Kodiak (BSK)
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2010, 11:00:00 AM »
Ok, by filling it once or twice you mean it might sink in again during the drying process? I will fill it this evening flush and leave it till tomorrow to check again. Thanks bowdoc, I have read alot of posts where people praise your work to no end, and have seen some of your projects, really nice work! Pity I don´t live closer! Just one last question, does the fact that the bow pulls 70# at 28" make it more fragile with age? Im just thinking logical that there would be more strain on the limbs even if they were made to hold that weight?! Of course i would use a bow stringer but still, thanks again for all the help and good luck with future projects!

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