I have an old bowhunting book at the house and have no way to post them today but there is a pic of Fred dragging a white tail buck out of the woods and he's using a back quiver as kind of protection to drag the buck out so the horns don't hit his back. In the same book, there is one of Fred with "i beleive" a mule deer, but he is kneeling down posing with the buck and it must be pre hunting boot times because as my daughter pointed out he is wearing a pair of Converse High tops... she was wondering why he was wearing skateboarding shoes.lol