Bear T/D Series 1 & 2 Serial Numbers

[dabprice]

In vintage-bear's post of 30 March 2011, he writes,

"I have in the past encountered A,B and C risers having the same serial #  ie......... I onced owned A-1760 and sold it to a fellow collector who owned B-1760 who then knew the whereabouts of C-1760. Interesting."

I have noticed this too: A and B numbers 1831 and A and B numbers 2098 on the CrookedStick's compilation lists.

Is there any explanation for this?

[vintage-bears]

I have no concrete explanation why they were serialized with the same #s at Bear.

Could have been an error at first and Bear Archery just "went with it" or it was by design.
We will never really know.

I knew/know of 3 sets of A,B and C wood risers with same #.

Knowing that some have this same serial # sequence, I have been searching for B-1966 with the hopes it was made at all.

..........Philip

[cacciatore]

For me this is natural,they started 3 designs with #1 but different letters.

[d. ward]

oh yeah thats the way they were numbered I've seen several sets also that were the same A-B serial number and 2 sets I've seen that also had the C riser.I'll be home tomorrow and will need to go back and finish off Berney's list bd

[CrookedStick]

Hey gents,

I don't think I've been on here since the big shutdown a couple years ago. My own little boycott I guess.

But I guess I owe you guys an apology for that boycott because it's caused me to fail at keeping up the Grayling riser registry. I will start bringing it back up to date this week and hope to have all three of them up and running again shortly. I was continuing the number tracking on my own, but I was so disappointed with the shutdown that I just couldn't bring myself to come back here.

Please chalk it up to being young and stubborn, LOL.

Now my answer to the original poster: After studying the numbers we have recorded, it seems to me (and I've heard this from others familiar with the riser manufacturing, but I can't remember who I heard it from) that they would make the risers in no particular order. So out of say 8 risers sitting on the finish rack, there could be two A-risers, a C-riser,another three As and two B risers. And that group of 8 would get numbered (for example) A1234, A1235, C1236, A1237, A1238, A1239, B1240, B1241.

But notice from the list and from your experiences, that sometimes there are two different size risers with the same number. My theory: The occasional duplicate number was probably a shift change accident...the person leaving never gave the person coming on the correct sequence number. There are few enough of those examples that I think that theory is credible.

But I also think there were specials going out for special clients, special requests, etc. And I think those are the ones you see that are matched sets of A, B and C risers all with the same number. It was just a cool thing back then and didn't cost anything to accomplish. Who woulda thunk that 40 years later we would be clamoring to get a set of matched numbers like that!?

Make sense?

Again I apologize for my registry neglect. I'll get back at it quickly.

Happy New Year!
Bernie

[vintage-bears]

Welcome back!
Just to keep you in the mood and "respark" your interest, I will be the first to post a couple pictures and hopefully others will jump in.

Thanks for your work in the registry!

 
 
 

...........Philip

[vintage-bears]

Originally posted by CrookedStick:
Hey gents,

I don't think I've been on here since the big shutdown a couple years ago. My own little boycott I guess.

But I guess I owe you guys an apology for that boycott because it's caused me to fail at keeping up the Grayling riser registry. I will start bringing it back up to date this week and hope to have all three of them up and running again shortly. I was continuing the number tracking on my own, but I was so disappointed with the shutdown that I just couldn't bring myself to come back here.

Please chalk it up to being young and stubborn, LOL.

Now my answer to the original poster: After studying the numbers we have recorded, it seems to me (and I've heard this from others familiar with the riser manufacturing, but I can't remember who I heard it from) that they would make the risers in no particular order. So out of say 8 risers sitting on the finish rack, there could be two A-risers, a C-riser,another three As and two B risers. And that group of 8 would get numbered (for example) A1234, A1235, C1236, A1237, A1238, A1239, B1240, B1241.

But notice from the list and from your experiences, that sometimes there are two different size risers with the same number. My theory: The occasional duplicate number was probably a shift change accident...the person leaving never gave the person coming on the correct sequence number. There are few enough of those examples that I think that theory is credible.

But I also think there were specials going out for special clients, special requests, etc. And I think those are the ones you see that are matched sets of A, B and C risers all with the same number. It was just a cool thing back then and didn't cost anything to accomplish. Who woulda thunk that 40 years later we would be clamoring to get a set of matched numbers like that!?

Make sense?

Again I apologize for my registry neglect. I'll get back at it quickly.

Happy New Year!
Bernie

Bernie, your not a Jedi yet my young apprentice!
Walk to the light and look beyond it.

 

Much to learn have you.
Never stop looking at the light........    

........Philip

[hayslope]

Bernie

Welcome back young man!  Was beginning to think you dropped off a cliff somewhere!!!

BTW - it was great finally getting to meet you (and your lovely wife) at Denton.  I know living in Michigan had to make it quite a trip.  Would love to see more of the photos you folks took of our "eclectic" group (especially the group photo with the "borrowed" 3-D deer).

Thanks for all your effort with the registries!

[CrookedStick]

Philip, wow, it would be a LOT easier for me to keep looking at the light if you sent that light directly to me so I could peek at it up close! Thanks for keeping me in the mood, LOL.

Hayslope,

Thanks pal, great to meet you as well! Besides the Riser lists, I'm also behind at sending photos out, I'll try and get on that as well.

In the meantime, the B-list is updated...please let me know if I missed anything and let me know if you guys can add any info.

Thanks,
Bernie

BTW, here is a copy of that pic...for the few folks who are not in the photo, I didn't see the point of dragging the whole crowd down the cliff for the picture of one of few targets that we all hit, so I dragged the deer up the hill to the group--but I promptly put it back so don't yell at me!
 

[vintage-bears]

What a great picture! Looks like you had a real fun time.
I recognize a couple people.

...........Philip

[hayslope]

Thanks Bernie

I remember everyone in the group roaring when we saw what you were going to do!  It certainly was a fine day on the hill.  Thanks again for posting the photo.

We all hope to see you again in the very near future!

Thanks again for all your fine work on the wood riser lists.......there's probably quite a few updates on the "A" list since you were there last.

Tony