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Offline Gil Verwey

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Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« on: March 08, 2012, 10:12:00 AM »
Good thing I am no longer collecting Bear bows. This one could get expensive.

There is a Nels Grumley Bear 2 piece takedown for sale on ****. It also has the original case.
I imagine this one will go for a ton of money.

I just thought I would post it here in the event any Bear collectors may be interested.

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 10:44:00 AM »
Saw that this morning, looks like a nice one. All you need is a few extra thousand and its yours    :smileystooges:

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 11:36:00 AM »
I have never seen a takedown Bear from that era. At one time I would have been in the hunt for that one.
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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 11:52:00 AM »
Johnnyrazorhead on this site has a couple grumley takedowns, is this one of his?

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 12:57:00 PM »
No Jim,this beautiful Grumley take-down is not mine although I would be more than happy to make it mine.Great piece of historyto be certain.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 01:19:00 PM »
bowdoc had one on there earlier this year that went to we know who!   :bigsmyl:

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 09:30:00 PM »
About 10 years ago, I counted all the Grumley T/D bows that I had seen. The total was exactly 3 dozen. Although I haven't kept track since then, it is likely that at least another dozen have surfaced in the past 10 years.

Point being, that the Grumley T/D bows are not really that rare if about 50 are known to be in existence. However certain models of the Grumley T/D are quite rare.

This case has 7 Grumley T/Ds, it is here at the Arsenal. This was one of the cases with Bear Grumley bows on display at Compton in 2011.

Note bush bow, second from right has the same hickory back and same round NFAA decal that Rich shows, although a different bow.

         
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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 04:53:00 PM »
Wade, are those the ones from John Grumley and the dispays he made?

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 09:30:00 PM »
I took all the bows out of John's cases and spent about three months arranging the 53 Grumley bows from John's and all of mine into one collection, then put them in the cases pretty much in chronological order. The case on the right, right has two of John's and two of mine. The two Deersylayers were Johns, the the Bush and Hunter were mine. John never had a TD Hunter. Only one of the bows in the left case was John's. Fortunately, nearly everything John was missing, I had. There are sill a few holes on a couple of variations of every wood type and overlay type in all the models.
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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 09:40:00 PM »
Wade
I realize were talking about the T/D's here and you have just given us some great history. Can I ask about the Grumley Deerslayer non T/D, stamped and signature? Any idea how many are out there of the two?? Any particular rare models or I should say variations?


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Nice Display, Looks like it's hinged and just folds together for travel!

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 10:52:00 AM »
Message went out to bidders this AM. The bow is back on again the crack killed the sale.

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 03:45:00 AM »
Larry,

I don't really classify the printed & singed and the ink stamped & signed as two different bows as both markings appear on bows that are constructed the same. Construction of the bows really makes a different bow, Deersslayer vs Bush vs Hunter vs Field vs Target vs Flight etc, solid wood vs 3 lam, lamination differences, overlay differences, TD vs non TD, different backing. Another example of different markings are the After Bear Grumley bows some of which are signed one of two different ways and others are ink stamped. Again After Bear Grumley bows are classified by construction.

Yes, most of my displays are hinged so they fold together for travel.
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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 12:54:00 PM »
Wade
Apparently many different variations on the Grumleys. If I ever get to look at your collection again I'm going to be sure and pay closer attention. I'm sure there is a visible transition over time.
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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 06:05:00 PM »
A few questions for you Grumley bow owners. Where did Grumley locate the arrow pass in relation to the center of the bow. Also we're both limbs typically the same length or was the top limb a bit longer? Just asking as I've been building a few selfbows and want to try to make a similar design soon. If anyone has detailed specs I would appreciate them greatly. Thanks

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 03:36:00 PM »
I will post better pictures when that Grumley comes in, for all to view. I managed to drop the hammer on it; this time. Can't wait to see the bow without all that tape!

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 03:46:00 PM »
Hmmm, it's good to see John's collection in good hands.  John Grumley was an old friend and we'd talk for hours in his workshop or his "hunting camp" just down the road from his workshop.  I think of John often and his passion for archery history, of which his dad was an major player in creating(and John kept alive with his collections).

Hopefully I'll make it to the Comptons shoot this June and Wade will have his collection there???
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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 04:29:00 PM »
I may have to bring mine to Denton for show and tell. More for people to view, and give me input on. Passion is there, and I have a lot of learning to do!

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 07:46:00 PM »
Fabulous display Wade good to see so many in your care.

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Re: Nels Grumley Bear 2 Piece Takedown
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2012, 11:55:00 PM »
Grumley arrived today. Pics and story can be seen on site listed here.

 http://***********.bowsite.com/tf/lw/thread2.cfm?forum=23&threadid=235746&messages=30&CATEGORY=9

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